Election

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I read there are people who pay no taxes, or pay very little and get rebate checks....
That is B.S
If you don't pay taxes you shouldn't get a rebate...that just makes sense this aint charity.
Those paying very little should not receive more back than they contributed either.

[Paladin_Godfather]

There is nothing wrong with Socialism... you figure oh.. half my pay goes to the government, but then you don't have to worry about health insurace, dental, eye exams, benefits because it is all government regulated... and for accident prone people, such as myself, that is a big benefit!! Let's not forget the education system would get a nice boost... I'm not saying we need to be Sweden or Canada, but big business and Capitalism works only if the government properly regulates and doesnt allow for price gouging and other absurdities...

Smurf, i'm totally for underprivilaged people getting money back from taxes... you deserve it.. i get a nice chunk back too. and it does help.. Bush's one slightly good idea was the stimulus check although it was drowned out by the fact that gas prices were at the rate you had to mortgage your house to fill your tank.

[TE | Hypo]

check it out. 

1.  if you voted, you helped choose who was going to be president.  if you didn't, shut your hole, eat your crow and deal for 4 years.
2.  taxes are a part of life, and its not like he's giving away money or taking huge chunks of money...  we will adapt.  and 2 years from now some more senators and representatives can be looked at and tossed or kept.
3.  if you've been out in the world for awhile, you know how to adapt to the change...  ONE PERSON elected president can't change the world.  it takes consensus to do that.

[Hitman Smurf]

I read there are people who pay no taxes, or pay very little and get rebate checks....
That is B.S
If you don't pay taxes you shouldn't get a rebate...that just makes sense this aint charity.
Those paying very little should not receive more back than they contributed either.

I work six days a week...my wife when she was working worked over 45 hours a week...we paid no taxes and got rebates back. The way I see it, if you work your ass off but can barley afford to survive a big rebate check is necessary. Unfortunately, with the state of the economy this is necessary so some people can survive. On the other hand, people that don't work at all and get fat checks, those people need to get off their ass and get a job.

[Elite_Prophet]

check it out. 

1.  if you voted, you helped choose who was going to be president.  if you didn't, shut your hole, eat your crow and deal for 4 years.

I feel that since I waited three hours to cast my ballot, I get to complain a little bit more than other people...your thoughts ? haha

[Hitman Smurf]

check it out. 

1.  if you voted, you helped choose who was going to be president.  if you didn't, shut your hole, eat your crow and deal for 4 years.

I feel that since I waited three hours to cast my ballot, I get to complain a little bit more than other people...your thoughts ? haha

LOL unfortunately, due to the electoral college, the individual vote is not as important as you may think....your vote "kinda" matters. Nonetheless, do your civic duty and then complain if you got screwed LOL

[V.I.P.]

I think the 250k cutoff for taxes is too low.  If you are a business owner and land owner it'll kill you paying property taxes and stuff.  Upkeep on those things as well as insurance are too much.

[byrnie]

I fall into the under 250K bracket which means if anything tax breaks are coming my way, but I personally would rather they didn't. I don't like the idea of redistribution of wealth; one it isn't fair to take money from someone just because they make a lot of it, where is the incentive to work hard enough to earn that kind of money if it is going to be taken from you? (and yes I understand there are people who don't work hard for it and it is handed to them, the system is not perfect and people get away with a lot of crap, but there are plenty of people who have worked hard in school and at work to get to that point). Two, if you take more money away from the people who pay everyone else's salaries, they aren't going to be able to pay as many salaries which causes job loss, slowing of production, and less investment, all things that impede economic growth and will probably send prices of most goods up.

I also don't think this is the end of the world and I too hope Obama does well, but what he plans on, and he ran under a more middle ground ticket than his voting record would tell you so who knows what he will actually do, does not seem to be the right answer.

While tax breaks for hard working middle and lower class families is at heart intended to help them, I don't see them being helpful in the long run. My worry is that the prices on goods is going to go up quite a bit and the cost of living increase will negate any benefit from tax breaks.

[Rally Pig]

LOL unfortunately, due to the electoral college, the individual vote is not as important as you may think....your vote "kinda" matters. Nonetheless, do your civic duty and then complain if you got screwed LOL
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which is what makes no sense and pisses me off

(and i know the following will get disected and commented on and so on, o well, my opinions, and i appologize now if i anger someone, if my facts, or comments are wrong no need to flame)

(supposedly)

299,398,484 total population
225,746,457 total population over 18 years
122,394,724 total number of US citizens that voted in 2008 election
= 54% of population voted

now the other 46%ish is either illegal immigrants, or the people that will have "impeach obama" stickers and bitching every year...I dont understand why people wont vote tho...i takes not even 2 min (without a line) to do so... don't like either? close your eyes and pick then you have a right to complain all you want...and i agree with what was posted earlier..IF YOU DIDN'T VOTE SHUT THE ........ (fill in the blank)

Did i like either? no, do i like polotics? NO! why? cause personally all it seems like is who has more money and who did a better job making the other guy look like an idiot, not so much this is what im going to do, not yes we can...YES WE CAN WHAT? and CHANGE...WHAT CHANGE!?!?! THERE IS CHANGE WITH EVERY NEW FACE IN OFFICE, both candidates talked about change, im sorry from my perception of obamas speech is the man is trying to change the whole world in 4 years (or 8 since the last 2 pres. both did 8 years) (i feel he is a good speaker, just didn't hear anything that convinced me, no off i could give a flying... if his kids are getting a puppy tell me something that will make me feel confident in my president for the next 4 years) no matter who got in office they would of had more than enough work for 4 years to get this country back to the way it was

And politics are like opinions, if you ask 10 people their views on the politics you would prob get 10 diff answers..which is why media should be left out besides just reporting what going on...you hear more crap about who did what in the past and "theyre bad ways" then actually hear what they have to say

and granted the same states go to the same parties every year...I live in NY, a state that is Mainly dem. thanks to the city, yet im republican...i know im not the only one but when i vote i almost feel like its a waste since i know the majority will go the other way, and its always the independent states that we have to wait for the votes from because it seems like those are the ones that count since it can swing one way or another

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