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Server Forum => Team Fortress 2 Pub (72.5.152.147) => Topic started by: Luggage on July 29, 2009, 07:39:56 AM

Title: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Luggage on July 29, 2009, 07:39:56 AM
I like Badlands, PL_Cashworks and PL_Frontier

Other suggestions?
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Smurfette on July 29, 2009, 08:12:36 AM
cp granery
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Baltika (#9) on July 29, 2009, 11:13:16 AM
I don't think that badlands is part of the current rotation, is it?
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Giant Flying Head on July 29, 2009, 12:25:41 PM
I'm not a fan of Badlands, but it would be nice for a change. There is one map I would like to see gone: Turbine! I personally don't like it and it seems to be a population killer or players begging for a map change! I'm sorry Smurfette but I hate granery with a pation! Though I won't complain if it's on the rotation, just to be nice. :-D
There's also been some complaints about Hydro. I love the map, but if it's grinding too many gears it needs to come off.
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Smurfette on July 29, 2009, 01:26:34 PM
I'm sorry Smurfette but I hate granery with a pation! Though I won't complain if it's on the rotation, just to be nice. :-D

Ty GFG, the only reason I mention this map is we have played it a few nights for a change of pace and others seem to like it as well.  Also, I know it can end in a stalemate, but it is a fair fight, back and forth over a point.  It is not usually a roll over for one team.  I would also suggest possibly putting fastlane back in.  Again, for the same reasons I just mentioned.  I don't mind Hydro, but it's not my favorite, and I feel about Hydro the way you do about granery, so we are even there - lol :)
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Hazmat_Incident on July 29, 2009, 02:11:38 PM
I'm a fan of Hydro, because I feel like it gives a bigger rotation.  Is it possilble to set it up so that it only goes through one rotation of the rounds instead of 2?  Once red/blue wins all sectors once, on to the next map.

I'm a fan of turbine as well, but I think I may be the only one.

I don't recall the name, but I played a map that was basically a small French town, and it revolved around a church (point).  I'd like to see if we can add that (if anyone remembers the name!)
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: LTK on July 29, 2009, 02:13:34 PM
I think adding badlands and granary would be a nice change. We can always remove them if they prove unpopular. I agee that we should pull turbine, it has become very dull and usually drops regulars. I can't recall if we ever had fastlane in the rotation, but I was always a fan of that one. Hydro was a newest oldie brought back it and went over quite well, IMO. The server always seems to get near capacity and stay there when were in a good grinding fight.
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Luggage on July 29, 2009, 02:23:35 PM
I like hydro - strong map; it's a nice big one that makes it fun for 32 ppl and can do well with basically any player class so there is something for everyone

Sconforti suggested PL_Dustbowl on another thread: i like that one also

Hate turbine
Fastlane is kinda blah for me but much better than turbine
Granary is kinda blah for me as well but can live through it: looks like some folks here like it 

Anyone posting here in favor of custom maps: please vote in the separate thread Hitman started for custom maps
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Giant Flying Head on July 29, 2009, 04:39:20 PM
PL_Dustbowl is a custom maps. Fastlane is terrible!
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: LTK on July 29, 2009, 05:30:49 PM
I don't think I've ever played frontier or cashworks. Are they custom maps?
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Rally Pig on July 29, 2009, 08:50:39 PM
ya PLEASE no fastlane or turbine, its nice having 1 CTF (intel) but no turbine lol....is it possible to throw in at least 1 custom map or something to break it up, or rotate a custom map every other week or so, just to keep something "new" in...... :blob:
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Video_Master on July 29, 2009, 08:57:25 PM
granary 99% of the time turns into a one obliterating the other and we lose half the server.  That is why that map is hardly played.

We had badlands and fastlane both in the rotation and all of you told me to take it out cause you were bored with it.

people wanted a CTF map that was not well or 2fort so that is why turbine went in.  

I honestly thought CP_WELL is a great map, but people complained about that one as well.

Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Giant Flying Head on July 30, 2009, 04:21:59 AM
We're going to get bored with maps on and off. That why I knew we'd have to continusly change the rotation to keep the population happy. I'm not sure why you're against changing the rotation Video.
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: SConforti on July 30, 2009, 05:38:55 AM
cp granery


boooooo
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Luggage on July 30, 2009, 06:23:07 AM
I don't think I've ever played frontier or cashworks. Are they custom maps?

both are custom payload maps - I have played them a fair bit on other servers and they are a lot of fun...
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Smurfette on July 30, 2009, 06:41:19 AM
Here is the problem as I see it!  This server is a community server and everyone's oppinions should be considered.  A dictatorship of what "will or will not" be put into the rotation is not fair!  Video, I honestly feel no matter what suggestions any of us make, you will find some reason to shoot it down.  Granery was played 2 nights in a row with no losses in population and several comments on how it was a nice change of pace!  I respect those of you who said you don't like the map and am willing to listen to other options.  But seriously, don't shoot down every idea any of us have!
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Spevf on July 30, 2009, 08:47:22 AM
Could we like take a vote and maybe change the maps every other month? Something new will usually bring people in and make them happy.
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Video_Master on July 30, 2009, 04:01:13 PM
Here is the problem as I see it!  This server is a community server and everyone's oppinions should be considered.  A dictatorship of what "will or will not" be put into the rotation is not fair!  Video, I honestly feel no matter what suggestions any of us make, you will find some reason to shoot it down.  Granery was played 2 nights in a row with no losses in population and several comments on how it was a nice change of pace!  I respect those of you who said you don't like the map and am willing to listen to other options.  But seriously, don't shoot down every idea any of us have!



First off as for calling this a dictatorship, this is far from it and I take great offense if someone is calling me a dictator when it comes to this server.  This server has the most community involvement of any server that The Elders has run and that is cause we always do polls about different things.  If all the old posts were still available you would have seen that I had many polls and things asking for input from people to see what everyone wanted.  Why am I not entitled to my opinion of things when it comes to maps just like everyone else.  You honestly need to settle down and not take everything so seriously like I am telling you NO.  You need to take a step back and look at it from my point of view of playing this game for about 2 years (Yes, I was part of the beta testing) and seeing how things have gone over that time.  That is how I base my opinions of maps and other things for this server.  I also go out and look at what the most popular servers are doing and how they are keeping their servers filled with people.  What maps they are running, what plugins they are running, and what other changes they have made to the config files like building more buildings, things costing less and the time it takes to build items.  There is alot of things that go into my opinions about this game then most people really understand.

I am only stating what has happened before with different maps.  Remember whatever the majority votes is what we will do.  I will almost always play devils advocate when it comes to this stuff cause this side of things needs to be talked about as well.  If the majority of people want a certain map then it will happen, if the majority wants custom maps then it will happen, but we need polls and they need to run for about a week to allow everyone time to vote.
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: DEATHHAVEN on July 30, 2009, 10:34:46 PM
lets try it for a bit and see what happens
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Giant Flying Head on July 31, 2009, 04:38:26 AM
I wasn't implying any sort of dictatorship, but you did come off in the last few post like "I'm not changing the rotation and that's that". So I only asked why it was a big deal. Purhaps there was something we didn't know.
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: SConforti on July 31, 2009, 06:21:23 AM
Lets just do random map votes as admin's when we are playing.  If someone could add "Extend Current Map" in the vote that would be good as well.
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Rally Pig on August 01, 2009, 11:25:07 AM
i was just thinking the same re-reading through this, why not just throw up a map vote half way / 3/4 the way through a game, granted not everyone in the game will vote every time...but i have seen at least 1 person trying to do a RTV just bout every game
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: Baltika (#9) on August 04, 2009, 08:06:38 AM
...but i have seen at least 1 person trying to do a RTV just bout every game
I saw several people trying to rock the vote last night
RTV could be good when a bunch of people are stuck playing a map that they don't like and there are no admins around...although looking at the server history, I'm not convinced that there is very much time during the day where there are players on, and no admins on.
Title: Re: What new maps should we add to the rotation?
Post by: LTK on August 04, 2009, 01:50:37 PM
I saw several people trying to rock the vote last night
RTV could be good when a bunch of people are stuck playing a map that they don't like and there are no admins around...although looking at the server history, I'm not convinced that there is very much time during the day where there are players on, and no admins on.

Perhaps that's part of the problem? It can't hurt to implement and it can do good for the community and adding to our player base.