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Server Forum => CS:S Gun Game Server (72.5.152.47) => Topic started by: MR|337 on June 30, 2008, 11:24:17 AM

Title: Suggestion Box
Post by: MR|337 on June 30, 2008, 11:24:17 AM
As the division leader for GG, it is my duty to ask about suggestions for the server. We are open to about anything that may improve performance or add to our members and guests enjoyment - so please feel free to speak your piece and stay on topic.

Also any issues within the server be it a problem with other players or anything else should be directed to me via private message. If for some reason I am unavailable or do not reply promptly within 24 hours please contact Widomaker.

We care about our members as well as guests and without you we would be alone in an empty server - Feel free to join our vent and talk directly with us. Half the fun are the conversations and friendly "trash talk" amongst the regs that you wont get in game chat, and a good number of friendships have been made this way. We look foreward to meeting new people - so dont be shy!

Let's all work together to make Gun Game a fun and competitive enviornment!

Thanks,
|337
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: byrnie on June 30, 2008, 11:36:44 AM
One suggestion, and sorry to say it, is changing the map rotation. I personally enjoy, I think it's Crossis's map maze, whichever comes after shotty, but server attendence seems to die once it starts. The system switches it back to shotty when there are few users, the server usually fills if there are at least a couple people in there, and then  when it moves to maze after a win people seem to leave. I could be wrong but that's what I have noticed.

Also, the autoswitch to shotty can be kind of annoying. There are plenty of times I have been playing one on one or two on two and it switches, negating what may have been a fun and productive round. Is there a way to set it up so that it asks before switching? Like if there are two-four users it triggers a vote, and if the vote passes it stays or fails it moves? I know the autoswitch is helpful as it does it's job to populate the server most of the time, but it can be kind of annoying sometimes as well. Criticism welcome of course, was just a thought
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: TE | Hypo on June 30, 2008, 11:40:17 AM
just got off a weeks vacation with my boys (1 week out of a year is DRAINING let me tell you, but definitely not enough time to make up for the other 358 days I miss) and I noticed on a sunday evening the GG server was dead...  Fernus got on and stabbed me way too many times (I'm still tweaking my new computers settings.) but it was empty... I got about 3 others to join but then fernus dropped off, and then one more dropped off and it was back to 1 on 1...  cry   ...

Is the server set on shotgun to idle at?  or does it actually rotate maps with nobody on it?  I think that map is awesome, but many people may not jump on if thats where it is...  can we set it to rotate maps no matter if people are on or not?

and I hope my donation finds its way to the GG server...  not that I don't like TF2 or that I don't play on the CSS server when nobodies in GG, but GG is where I play mostly.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: MR|337 on June 30, 2008, 12:40:35 PM
Thanks guys!

I'll look into changing the default map, but would you rather play with less than four players on anything bigger than shottie? I know larger maps and few players, especially in the knife round can be hard to find the other guy. I would prefer something like gg_funtimes to be the default map but that would be defeating the purpose of a small map and only a couple to play it.

I'll take suggestions for a rotation if anyone has any - at least five maps...

Hypo - Thanks for the donation!
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: V.I.P. on June 30, 2008, 02:59:29 PM
Just a personal preference would be takin a few maps off the rotation like the 3 floor one..not sure of the name but it's not crossis map.  Other than that I like the rotation and the server hasn't been laggy or anything.  I like keeping the rotation to a few maps and then let the admins on change it after a vote.  gg and ty
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Video_Master on June 30, 2008, 03:48:27 PM
I agree with the whole map rotation and it needs to be even less maps.

As for the donation.  Hypo, thank you very much for the donation!!!  I want to let you know how donations work and how the servers are setup.  We have 2 physical servers which house all of the games.  GunGame and TF2 are on 1 server and CS:S, COD4, and DOD:S Beta are on the other server.  All donations and server payments from Founders and Owners go into 1 pot and everything is paid out from it.

-VM
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Elite_Prophet on June 30, 2008, 08:30:01 PM
Bring back the top 150 nights!
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Hitman Smurf on June 30, 2008, 11:13:28 PM
I think Top 150 night might bring more people into the servers, especially players who read the forums. I could post something on the Frontpage News announcing it a couple weeks before it happened and maybe we'll see some more traffic.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: wonder. on July 01, 2008, 07:42:15 AM
yea, the top 150 nights were a big hit, but also the map rotation needs to be changed.  The server used to always be full, to the point where admins had a hard time connecting cause there were 21 people.  Now, i rarely see it reach its capacity, and that is because of the map rotation.  When I play on other servers, I hear alot, "O, TE I used to play on their gungame alot" but now they don't cause of the maps, and some because they are perm banned (not for hacking).  What im saying is that the old map rotation we had worked, and it worked really well.  We should stick to the maps that populate the server such as shotty, funtimes, churches, maybe one of the TE maps, and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: TE | Hypo on July 01, 2008, 08:52:37 AM
thanks for the explanation VM!  wasn't sure how it was getting spread around, but glad it helps out!

is there a posting that shows the active map rotation for the GG server?  Is there a posting that shows teh available maps on that server that the admins have access to run if peeps want it?

Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: TE | Hypo on July 01, 2008, 10:32:04 AM
there's a small office map for GG that works really well if you're worried about people hiding...  and angry overpass is decently open enough to keep away hiders and runners.  single levels are the best for GG small populations to start off with...

one suggestion:  http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/55487

and maybe an open speedmap  http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/15034

Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: WidowMaker on July 01, 2008, 11:29:28 AM
thanks for the explanation VM!  wasn't sure how it was getting spread around, but glad it helps out!

is there a posting that shows the active map rotation for the GG server?  Is there a posting that shows teh available maps on that server that the admins have access to run if peeps want it?

I just added a link to the server map cycle and available maps for the servers in the content area.

Widow
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: wonder. on July 01, 2008, 11:47:27 AM
looks good widow.  nice going.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Hitman Smurf on July 01, 2008, 11:51:20 AM
That's awesome Widow, thanks. Is it possible to list the DOD server on the status page?
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: TE | Hypo on July 01, 2008, 02:05:35 PM
k I'm not finding it... where is the content area?
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: TE | Hypo on July 01, 2008, 02:06:30 PM
woah.  I'm an idiot!  (super troopers back of the soap truck.)

nevermind.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: TE | Hypo on July 01, 2008, 02:08:48 PM
HS thats a lot of maps!

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Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: THE Spaniard on July 02, 2008, 01:07:58 AM
thanks Mr leet for taking the effort and the time to deal with gg suggestions.

 i gotta agree that when i first entered ur gg server when i used to be 1/4snake a long time ago, the top150 nights was something that will really call my attention and make me wanna play more in the server.now its just because i have been here for ever and i can't play anywhere else, its not as fun. but the top150 really used to make the server be full and keep new people coming in the server all the time.

 Secondly, i gott agree with byrnie, i think its been many times while we were playing that we were 4 ppl and it still kick back to the shotty, is there any way to put that down to like 2 ppl minimum before it goes back to shotty??
 
 about the maps, i think shotty is the most typical and clasic gg map that everyones gotta like and usually would help to populate the server, i agree that the second map should be change to something more famous and common such as snow, or funtimes(which is kinda small or simple)and lots of ppl like(i used to like the sponge bob map a lot too, it was pretty cool for a second map in my opinion,
  also i agree that the 3 floors one is not being very popular any more, at least i think that way. i miss crates sometimes.

  if i remember any other maps we used to play that might fit well in the rotation ill let u know.

 thanks again for your time and interest
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: THE Spaniard on July 02, 2008, 01:45:28 AM
sorry for the long ass post and for posting again, but i just wanted to say the maps that i like for the rotation.

 I like shotty, snow, supadeth, lego, crates, funtimes, sponge bob, deagle, among others

 I hate the most in the world:pool day, countryhouse, and floatworld(this one not as much)
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: TE | Hypo on July 02, 2008, 07:16:54 AM
is floatworld the one with the freaky floor coloring surrounded by water?  yeah that one sucks donkey balls.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: MR|337 on July 03, 2008, 09:34:33 AM
Concerning top 150 night:

I'll have to see if Widow will tell me how to set it up. If we can still have one it would be cool to have every friday or maybe sunday...

Maps:

I know it looks like a lot of maps but only a portion of those are available via admin.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Video_Master on July 03, 2008, 10:21:53 AM
once we move to sourcemod they would all be available via admin.  Sourcemod looks at all the maps installed on the server and adds them to the admin menu.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Earl on July 03, 2008, 05:15:21 PM
Thanks for doing this Mr. Leet!!!...as it has already been stated top 150 was something I always looked forward to, and absolutly made time for...not only that I thought it amoung the best times I've had playin GG ever since I happened across the server so many moons ago!!!...lol...not only that but it will offer some incentive to maintain atleast 150th..... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: fraggle 79 on July 03, 2008, 07:41:02 PM
WOOT, I was a big supporter for top 150, I miss those nights, always less noobish!

BTW I remember you now Spaniard (aka 1/4 snake) good times.

Please bring it back Leet if you're able.  And we need 1 or 2 orange texture maps, i miss them.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: THE Spaniard on July 04, 2008, 12:11:37 AM
yep, i used to play with my brothers account all the time, thats why my name was 1/4snake. then he went back to spain with my parents and i stood here, so it took me a few months before i bought my own css and my laptop so i could start playing again, and teh only server i remeber when i started again was the elders gg cause it was the coolest and still is.
  top150 nights was the shit, and many times if you would get in game a little late the server would be full. i hated it when that happen, but it shows how popular they were and how much it used to populate the servers.

 i agree with bringing one of the orange texture maps, they were fun
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Hitman Smurf on July 04, 2008, 01:24:42 AM
Orange texture maps kick ass...there's a couple I like.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: PHI_21 on July 04, 2008, 07:42:37 AM
I agree, texture maps are fun, that is what brought me to the server back in the day. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: MR|337 on July 04, 2008, 01:28:24 PM
Make me some map rotations, guys.

I swear we will try them out. I'm digging this feedback and I'll use it to make the server better for everyone.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Hitman Smurf on July 05, 2008, 03:11:36 AM
Add a couple texture maps to the rotation...everyone love them.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: THE Spaniard on July 06, 2008, 12:48:09 AM
alright mr let, here it is my rotation:

  shotty, lego, orange texture(any of them u like), snow, funtimes, supadeth,deagle, and maze or crates or sponge bob (if you can or want to put more on it)
 
 people just say some possible roations like mr leet said, it's easy that way

 just my two cents!!!!!
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: TE | Hypo on July 06, 2008, 07:09:58 AM
is RTV possible with no admins on?
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Hitman Smurf on July 06, 2008, 12:24:13 PM
is RTV possible with no admins on?

It will be soon.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: THE Spaniard on July 07, 2008, 05:08:51 PM
thas a pretty cool option, are u guys gonna do and rtv option follow by a map choice for whats gonna be next or it will just go to the next map in the rotation?
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: byrnie on July 07, 2008, 05:22:10 PM
Alright, map rotation proposal

Shotty, snow, churches, Orange texture map (don't have a pref), and then sand trap or maze

It seems like the shotty and snow maps fill the server, and then maze would empty it again. I like maze but it doesn't seem too popular with non regs unfortunately
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Video_Master on July 08, 2008, 07:20:03 AM
RTV and Map Choice are not on there until the server moves to Source Mod.  Once on Source Mod then we can put one or the other on the server.  I can tell you that on the TF2 server the user base liked RTV much better.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: wonder. on July 08, 2008, 08:42:14 AM
Alright, map rotation proposal

Shotty, snow, churches, Orange texture map (don't have a pref), and then sand trap or maze

It seems like the shotty and snow maps fill the server, and then maze would empty it again. I like maze but it doesn't seem too popular with non regs unfortunately

That seems good, but I would add funtimes to that, and maybe superdeath instead of sandtrap or maze.

From what Ive seen since gungame came out, I feel this would be the best rotation.

Shotty, Funtimes, Snow, Churches, (Popular Textures are Aim_47th level(old but fun) Aim_texture 2 and Texture city.)  One of those.  That would be it.  Maybe if you want tact on ultradeath.  nice small map. 

But those will fill the server, and keep people there, which is most important.

So thats my feeling.

~Wonder.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: MR|337 on July 08, 2008, 09:03:04 AM
Video Master has kindly agreed to help with the GG server. I have just been too busy with work and real life right now.

What we will do is to modify the rotation to your likings starting with ones suggested in this thread. Give us some feedback so we will know what to change/add. Source mod should be on the server in the near future so RTV and others .

Thanks!

|337
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: V.I.P. on July 08, 2008, 09:42:14 AM
I was just skimming through and saw many requests for top 100/150 night and was wondering if there had been a particular night mentioned for this.  If not, should we start voting on it so when it starts we'll all be aware that it is taking place?

for future references: friday and saturday are both good for me
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Video_Master on July 08, 2008, 10:08:34 AM
Here is the new rotation for awhile.  We will try this out and see how the server does and change it as necessary.

gg_aim_shotty
fy_funtimes
gg_aim_47th_v2-l
fy_snow
gg_aim_ag_texture2-m
gg_supadeth_b3
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: wonder. on July 08, 2008, 10:11:25 AM
Sounds good, only thing, I would switch out 47th for churches.  It will do the job in filling the server, think we should stick to only one texture map, also cause both of those are rather big.  But other than that it looks good.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: MR|337 on July 08, 2008, 11:14:38 AM
If we knew how to enable top 150 we would...

Widow?
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: THE Spaniard on July 08, 2008, 12:42:39 PM
i like video master's rotation, but i agree with wonder that we should change one of the texture(47th) and put lego instead of churches, i dont like churches cause it creates a lot of camping spawn and we dont like that in the server. lego is an awesome map and lots of new people come in while we are playing it, they like it.
 that is my only change to the new rotation, i like all the others!!!
gj video
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: TE | Hypo on July 08, 2008, 01:16:38 PM
good points Spaniard.

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Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Hitman Smurf on July 08, 2008, 01:33:34 PM
Churches = Camping. I hate that map. Lego is a good map I'd like to see to although there is another texture map I would like to see in the rotation that we've played before, the one with the bridges, buildings and water. I think two texture maps would be O.K.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: THE Spaniard on July 08, 2008, 10:14:28 PM
that texture map aim 47th something with water and towers and high things that is huge should not be on the rotation in my opinion, not many ppl like it, it is too big when very often there are only like 5 or 6 ppl in the server and it would take for ever for some1 to win.
  i think lego should substitute that aim_47th texture map.
  just my two cents,
  thanks!!
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Hitman Smurf on July 08, 2008, 10:16:56 PM
Yeah, it is a big map, but I like it...but it may be too big for regular rotation with as few people as we have had on lately. Good point Spaniard.
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: THE Spaniard on July 08, 2008, 10:30:30 PM
yeah smurf!! I agree i can be a good map if there are a lot of people in the server and/or if there are admins in the server at that monet, cause i really see it during the afternoons or any other time when usually none of u guys is in, some times well be playing 3 on 3 or something like that, and in that map people would en up leaving the server.
  especially if some noob decides to start camping and we cant do anything.
  i think that when admins are in they can set is as a next map, but for the rotation i dont think is a good idea, pick something like lego, or funtimes, or something like that.
  thanks!!
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Hitman Smurf on July 14, 2008, 01:18:39 PM
Here's a map I found that looks like tons of fun:

http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/24550

and a finished version of churches:

http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/24557

a couple more I liked:

http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/22579

http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/42805
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Holy Shit on October 16, 2008, 07:51:52 AM
Sumrf i can work on getting these on the server now that it is back up and running :D

The first one looks great and like it would be some fun.

The second is a great update to an onld classic might bring some new people in.

The third i have played and it is hella fun, there is some great places to go, its got an underground part, that can make it kinda big tho... but i will put it on

the fourth one looks good too... alywas a fan of the trexture maps
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Hitman Smurf on October 20, 2008, 06:08:40 PM
Awesome  :headbang1: hope to play some GG with you soon
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Earl on March 25, 2009, 05:47:06 PM
Has anyone considered reverse mode?....might be cool!!.... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: byrnie on March 26, 2009, 12:05:59 AM
I wouldnt argue, specially on turbo, seems to work better when turbo is set. Also what about the knife syphon? Just a reminder lolz
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: Earl on March 26, 2009, 03:08:07 PM
Yea man...I read up on that sounds cool!!!!....Why not!!!...Although it wouldn't help me very much....lol....
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: THE Spaniard on March 27, 2009, 02:24:12 AM
that could be fun!! at least for a little while just to try it!!
Title: Re: Suggestion Box
Post by: koala killa on September 02, 2009, 07:48:35 PM
I'm noticing that the GG server is dead most of the day and when i want to rack up points i'm not able to because there is no one on. so, my suggestion is: could you possibly add a couple expert bots into the mix until 4 or more players join. as people join the server the bots get depleted one by one... thats helpful on other GG servers and i'm hoping it could help this one.

thanks.