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Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on January 20, 2005, 08:04:37 AM: I haven't spent too much time following CS Source so I was wondering if any of you fanatics had the minimum and recommended requirements for a PC to play Source. Of course the manufacturer's recommendations don't always meet the real life needs, so any personal input you can give so one doesn't get owned is also desired.

As an FYI, here's my PC specs, and believe me I ain't bragging:
CPU - Athalon XP2000+, 1.67 GHz
RAM - 512 MB PC2100
FSB - 266 MHz
Video - Nvidia Ti4200 128 MB
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: NightTrain on January 20, 2005, 08:27:55 AM: You have the same exact computer as me practically except that my Athalon XP processor runs at 1.4 gHz and i have 768 MB of ram. I ran souirce last night and tweaked some settings to get about 35 fps. I did pretty well with that, but I will be looking to upgrade to a better board, processor, ram and video card as soon as possible (hopefully when I get a new job).

/Night
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on January 20, 2005, 08:42:31 AM: lol...you couldn't have been dumb enough, like me, to buy a Compaq Presario (6410nx)!!! I tried to upgrade to 1 GB of RAM but the PC puked on it...Compaq said I probably needed a new motherboard, after the warranty expired. I lmao and said I guess 512 will have to work.
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: xTc the NJ GUIDO on January 20, 2005, 09:44:33 AM: HEh well my specs look good but cs runs like crap and im not sure if hl2 would work fine so i would appreciate anyones input as well,

Intel 3.2 ghz
RAM 1gb of PC3200 i believe it is
Video card - Gigabyte nvidia fx 5700
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on January 20, 2005, 09:58:33 AM: Quote from: xTc the NJ GUIDO
HEh well my specs look good but cs runs like crap and im not sure if hl2 would work fine so i would appreciate anyones input as well,

Intel 3.2 ghz
RAM 1gb of PC3200 i believe it is
Video card - Gigabyte nvidia fx 5700

Lmao...they don't make PCs much better than that...must be that you're just no good at CS! Try solitare or freecell, they'll run fine.
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: NightTrain on January 20, 2005, 10:20:51 AM: Quote from: Spikeroo
Quote from: xTc the NJ GUIDO
HEh well my specs look good but cs runs like crap and im not sure if hl2 would work fine so i would appreciate anyones input as well,

Intel 3.2 ghz
RAM 1gb of PC3200 i believe it is
Video card - Gigabyte nvidia fx 5700

Lmao...they don't make PCs much better than that...must be that you're just no good at CS! Try solitare or freecell, they'll run fine.
:lol:
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: xTc the NJ GUIDO on January 20, 2005, 10:47:46 AM: Quote from: Spikeroo
Quote from: xTc the NJ GUIDO
HEh well my specs look good but cs runs like crap and im not sure if hl2 would work fine so i would appreciate anyones input as well,

Intel 3.2 ghz
RAM 1gb of PC3200 i believe it is
Video card - Gigabyte nvidia fx 5700

Lmao...they don't make PCs much better than that...must be that you're just no good at CS! Try solitare or freecell, they'll run fine.

hardy har har

Well i dont know whats up with my comp, like at first it runs fine then it just turns to crap, on aztec i get anywhere from 20-40 fps and im not even sure what it is anymore, i think im gonna go to the store buy a new video card and try to get the one that comes with free hl2.
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: HongKongPhooey on January 20, 2005, 02:47:48 PM: with that computer u should definately be getting better fps, u got to have something screwed up on your comp.
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Death_ADDER on January 20, 2005, 03:35:08 PM: well xtc your obvious problem there is your video card... heres my computer and it runs css and hl2 great.

P4 3GHZ
1GB ram
ATI radeon 9800 pro aiw

Steve
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: xTc the NJ GUIDO on January 20, 2005, 04:11:20 PM: Well i may have come to a conclusion, im not sure, but I did build my computer myself, and thats probably the problem.
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Gunner on January 20, 2005, 04:12:58 PM: All i have is
AMD Athlon 64 3400+ memory/1024mb NVIDIA GeForce 6800 card

and it runs fine \:D/
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: xTc the NJ GUIDO on January 20, 2005, 10:42:51 PM: My VIDEO CARD

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-125-132&depa=1

hmm ive notice some things when i play cs, at first it runs great at 100 fps, but as i play for maybe like 30 secnods, not sure because i havent counted, the fps start to drop, just take a look at these ss.

http://rscene.temp.powweb.com/xtc/inf1.jpg GOOD
http://rscene.temp.powweb.com/xtc/inf2.jpg BAD

http://rscene.temp.powweb.com/xtc/inf4.jpg GOOD
http://rscene.temp.powweb.com/xtc/inf3.jpg BAD

I also took a look at this
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/geforce_fx_half-life2/
Im installed the latest nvidia driver which includes direct x 9, but im pretty sure i had it before hand, but anyways im not sure what the hell is going on in the article, but it may be the cause of my fps issue, people said hl2 runs good with the 5700, and i get severe fps drops just with cs, so if anyone can help plz do. And a note, those pics were taken within like 60 - 120 seconds of each other, but the mroe you play the worse it gets i guess
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: HongKongPhooey on January 21, 2005, 07:52:10 AM: I think it is saying that even though you have dx9 installed your cs is still runs off of dx8. Try this: Valve recommended we use the switch "-dxlevel 90? at the command line to force GeForce FX cards to run the DirectX 9 path. Try that and if it works add it to your user.cfg so that it executes it every time you connect.
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: xTc the NJ GUIDO on January 21, 2005, 11:17:03 AM: hmm Im do dumb i didnt realize that it was for hl2, and it doesnt work for regular cs, and im not even sure what the hell to do now. Because i know its possible to get 100 fps because i get it at the beginning when i start the game.
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on January 21, 2005, 07:37:10 PM: You built the pc yourself, eh? Just throwing this out there - do you have enough cooling and ventilation? Fans all running? If all yes, then how about your vid card settings? VSYNC off? Etc.?

BYW...I seldom get 100 fps...when a round starts or when I stare at the wall with nobody around I get 100 but all other times it's all over the friggin' place.

I've given up tweaking. Seems I'd get it to 100 consistently then Valve would drop a new release and everything went down the shitter again.
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Death_ADDER on January 22, 2005, 01:42:45 AM: k spikeroo... his vsync is off if he gets 100fps at the start of CS... and if his computer runs and doesn't shut off on its own it usually means he has good enough cooling... I have 9 fans and my cpu runs at around 30 C.

Steve
Title: Do you think these specs can handle CS:S
Post by: Timmy Timm Wolfman on January 22, 2005, 05:34:46 AM: Athlone 64 3000
512 PC2700
ATI AIW 9600
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: NightTrain on January 22, 2005, 12:02:07 PM: Welcome to the board Wolfman!
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: blue on January 22, 2005, 07:30:34 PM: i feeell like shiit

3.2 GHz Intel P4
512 MB RAM
Verizon ONline DSL

ATI RAGE FURY PRO 32MB (wuhoo!)

i get at max 40fps in 1.6

instead of paying for the source pub how bout a 6800gt :twisted:
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on January 23, 2005, 01:51:01 AM: Quote from: NightTrain
Welcome to the board Wolfman!

Wolfy was one of my students when I was teaching. I invited him to check us out, although he is in another clan. Quite a character! Welcome to the board Wolfy.
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Timmy Timm Wolfman on January 23, 2005, 07:01:23 AM: Quote from: Spikeroo
Quote from: NightTrain
Welcome to the board Wolfman!

Wolfy was one of my students when I was teaching. I invited him to check us out, although he is in another clan. Quite a character! Welcome to the board Wolfy.

thanks for the welcome. i am quite the character arent i. well you seriouly need to come back and teach lol...shop isnt cool anymore..everyone hates it lol.
Title: Source Compute requirements
Post by: `t`o`k`e`s on January 23, 2005, 08:00:11 AM: P4 2.8 HT
2gigs Dual Channel PC3200
Asus 6800 Ultra

Source set at everything high, 4xAA, 8xA, Vsync off and i get 75-100
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: flintlock on January 24, 2005, 09:13:52 PM: P4 2.8Ghz
800Ghz FSB
512 Meg Ram
NVidia FX5600 w/256meg on board I think

80-100 FPS in CS 1.6 all the time
50-60 FPS in CSS consitently
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on January 25, 2005, 05:00:20 AM: Seem to be getting 40-60 FPS in source server. Not bad for my POS. Now my ping on the other hand is a little high, 50-70.
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Death_ADDER on January 25, 2005, 11:26:19 AM: for CSS thats a pretty good ping...

Steve
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on January 25, 2005, 03:37:57 PM: Quote from: Death_ADDER on January 25, 2005, 11:26:19 AM
for CSS thats a pretty good ping...

Steve

Well alrighty then!

BTW - XTC thinks his fan isn't working well on his vid card...I imagine the video processor doesn't get stressed until he starts CS then after a few moments the bacon starts fryin'. His cure, lmao, open the windows - guess he's in trouble in the summer.
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on January 27, 2005, 12:04:40 AM: By Feb. 8th at the latest (damn fine print!!!!) the following specs will prevail:

Dell XPS Configured as follows:
P4 550, 3.4 GHz, 800 MHz FSB
1 GB 533 MHz DDR2
256 MB PCI Express GeForce 6800 GTO
250 GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
SB Audigy2 ZS w/Dolby 5.1 and Firewire

Widow says he's scared... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Paladin_Godfather on January 27, 2005, 09:50:19 AM: Power Spec 2.4 GHz
768 RAM
GeForce FX 5600 (and this works just dandy for HL2 and Source)

I think this thread turned into a What's everyone Specs? thread lol :mrgreen: << i love that guy
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: flintlock on January 28, 2005, 02:33:35 PM: Quote from: Spikeroo on January 27, 2005, 12:04:40 AM
By Feb. 8th at the latest (damn fine print!!!!) the following specs will prevail:

Dell XPS Configured as follows:
P4 550, 3.4 GHz, 800 MHz FSB
1 GB 533 MHz DDR2
256 MB PCI Express GeForce 6800 GTO
250 GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
SB Audigy2 ZS w/Dolby 5.1 and Firewire

Widow says he's scared... :mrgreen:

Don't worry Widow, his bad ass PC still has the same operator!

Ouch!, oh that sucks! :-P
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on January 28, 2005, 03:57:54 PM: LOL...I'll save a headshot for you Flintlock...

:mrgreen:
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: flintlock on January 30, 2005, 10:15:44 AM: If you do, take a screen shot and hang it on your wall because it'll be the only one.

Had to use the :mrgreen: guy at lest once.
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on January 30, 2005, 12:47:19 PM: Flint...i'm gonna throw you over my shoulder and burp you just like I'm bout to do to they baby...get your bubby ready... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: T3H on January 30, 2005, 02:02:43 PM: who uses a dell PC come the fuck on? that has to be the worst move a person could make lmao

:mrgreen:
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on January 30, 2005, 02:50:32 PM: Not everyone can afford an emachines like you...
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Death_ADDER on January 30, 2005, 03:54:53 PM: whoeverm said they had a dell it was a XPS... which by pcgamer was rated one of the best off the shelf computers for games.

Steve
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on January 30, 2005, 05:08:24 PM: Dell's only issue in the past has been expandability. I have no need to expand that machine except to add more memory when HL3 comes out...lol....

Jealousy sucks, doesn't it Thug? Do me a favor and find a shitty review for the XPS from a reputable source. Good luck. I did my homework.

:mrgreen:
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: flintlock on January 31, 2005, 10:05:08 PM: Quote from: Spikeroo on January 30, 2005, 12:47:19 PM
Flint...i'm gonna throw you over my shoulder and burp you just like I'm bout to do to they baby...get your bubby ready... :mrgreen:

:lol: We used to have a nuk emoticon but it disapeared with the old forums.
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on February 02, 2005, 06:30:31 AM: :-D :roll: :lol: 8-) :mrgreen:

I imagine my new pc fits the recommended requirements...

After a day and a half of...let's just say "unpacking" it, I finally took her for a semi-serious spin on the Source server last night. Woot - fps was 80 minimum, 150-160 on the top end and hovered around 140 for the most time. PWNING!

W00t! :blob: :sunny: - Update - I had 250+ fps when I was playing with myself today...yes I did leave this statement open for comments - more fun that way!! Hey - we need a clown smiley!
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: flintlock on February 02, 2005, 11:59:05 AM: Quote from: Spikeroo on February 02, 2005, 06:30:31 AM
:-D :roll: :lol: 8-) :mrgreen:

I imagine my new pc fits the recommended requirements...

After a day and a half of...let's just say "unpacking" it, I finally took her for a semi-serious spin on the Source server last night. Woot - fps was 80 minimum, 150-160 on the top end and hovered around 140 for the most time. PWNING!

W00t! :blob: :sunny: - Update - I had 250+ fps when I was playing with myself today...yes I did leave this statement open for comments - more fun that way!! Hey - we need a clown smiley!

Sorry Spike, I specifically avoid such images. No comment :binky: <----- Its back! Yahooooooo!
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on February 02, 2005, 02:54:43 PM: ********* BURP****** :puke:

:mrgreen:
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Paladin_Godfather on February 03, 2005, 09:15:58 AM: :binky: :binky: <<<<<Michael Jackson's dates for tonight!!
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: T3H on February 19, 2005, 08:07:52 AM: i dun have an emachine but dells...pffff i hate them like they trick almost everybody into spending so much money.......half the parts in there PC, if they have to be replaced after a while cuz they die etc, they can ONLY use dell parts and then ur paying like twice as much.......its stupid there pieces lol
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on February 19, 2005, 06:10:51 PM: I'll jam a dell up ur arse... :thebirdman:

:mrgreen:
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: diEsoOn on April 30, 2005, 08:58:40 PM: My comp:
AMD64 2800+
Memory 514M
Video card: 5700LE

and after I add this autoexec.cfg:

mat_specular "0"
mat_bumpmap "0"
mp_decals "0"
cl_phys_props_enable "0"
cl_ragdoll_physics_enable "0"
cl_phys_props_max "0"
cl_show_bloodspray "0"
fog_enable "0"
fog_enableskybox "0"
fog_enable_water_fog "0"
r_propsmaxdist "1"
r_rainspeed "1"
r_rainsimulate "0"
r_DrawRain "0"
r_dynamic "0"
r_shadows"0"
r_3dnow "1"
r_mmx "1"
r_3dsky "0"
r_WaterDrawReflection "0"
r_WaterDrawRefraction "0"
r_fastzreject "1"
mod_forcedata "1"
rope_shake "0"
cl_showfps "1"

My fps is impoved to be like around 70... 10-20 more than before.
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: `t`o`k`e`s on May 01, 2005, 08:39:02 AM: dell xps are good machines but a waste of money i think. u could have gotten the same or better parts your self and put it together for a much cheaper price then the dell xps.

P4 2.8
800fsb
2gig dual channel
soundblaster audigy 2
6800 ultra
mx 510
19inc crt
logitech 5.1 surround (280watts)
74gig sata raptor (main)
60gig ata (backup)
water cooled cpu,gpu

i beleive i spent a little under 2200 for everything
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Poops Mcgee on May 01, 2005, 03:15:37 PM: yeah i built my first computer in 2001 and i can't ever see going back to big name computers again. if you can wire a car stereo up u can put a computer together. it's that easy. i recently upgraded that machine i built in 2001 with a new mobo, 1GB of pc3200, amd 2800 and an ati 9800 pro all for $400. yeah i know that seems cheap, but ram is cheap now which helped.

cpu $100
ram $85
mobo $125 with $110 rebate = $15
vcard $200

that upgrade would not have been possible with a dell cuz i wouldn't have been able to put a new mobo in it that supported the faster cpu and ram. i get a miniumn of 55 fps in source now, normally higher, but it drops to 55 sometimes. it might drop lower when a bomb goes off sometimes. but i'm quite happy with my upgrade. that was a big step up from what i had, which was a gf4 ti4200 64mb, amd 1600, 512 of pc2100.

but i haven't tried to tweak cs:s a bit. seems to run fine the way it is. it is a bit dark for me though. the CT's can hide from me quite well in the shadows.
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on May 02, 2005, 05:57:33 AM: Quote from: `t`o`k`e`s on May 01, 2005, 08:39:02 AM
dell xps are good machines but a waste of money i think. u could have gotten the same or better parts your self and put it together for a much cheaper price then the dell xps.

Building my pc for the price I paid would be tough - I spent $1466 for my Dell XPS Gen 3 due to a wonderful $1250 coupon I had. It would be hard to build the PC I got at that price.

Let me re-state the specs:

Dell XPS Gen 3 Configured as follows (Service Tag: 7JG3R61):
P4 550, 3.4 GHz, 800 MHz FSB
1 GB 533 MHz DDR2
256 MB PCI Express GeForce 6800 GTO
250 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
SB Audigy2 ZS w/Dolby 5.1 and Firewire
Philips 16x DVD-/+RW Burner
2nd DVD-ROM Drive
NetExtreme Gigabit NIC
USB Headphone Adaptor and Headset (since the sound card sucked with Source)
Already owned the MX500 mouse
Already owned a Multisync P1150 (19.6" Viewable)
Some OEM Software (XP Home, Norton, Etc.)
1 Year Warranty

:mrgreen: Mr. Green says "Ride that bitch!"
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Privateer on May 02, 2005, 07:50:39 AM: Quote from: Spikeroo From Kalamazoo on May 02, 2005, 05:57:33 AM
Quote from: `t`o`k`e`s on May 01, 2005, 08:39:02 AM
dell xps are good machines but a waste of money i think. u could have gotten the same or better parts your self and put it together for a much cheaper price then the dell xps.

Building my pc for the price I paid would be tough - I spent $1466 for my Dell XPS Gen 3 due to a wonderful $1250 coupon I had. It would be hard to build the PC I got at that price.

Let me re-state the specs:

Dell XPS Gen 3 Configured as follows (Service Tag: 7JG3R61):
P4 550, 3.4 GHz, 800 MHz FSB
1 GB 533 MHz DDR2
256 MB PCI Express GeForce 6800 GTO
250 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
SB Audigy2 ZS w/Dolby 5.1 and Firewire
Philips 16x DVD-/+RW Burner
2nd DVD-ROM Drive
NetExtreme Gigabit NIC
USB Headphone Adaptor and Headset (since the sound card sucked with Source)
Already owned the MX500 mouse
Already owned a Multisync P1150 (19.6" Viewable)
Some OEM Software (XP Home, Norton, Etc.)
1 Year Warranty

:mrgreen: Mr. Green says "Ride that bitch!"

It would be hard my old friend spike, unless your name was privateer my friend

Let me re-state my specs:

Dell Dem 8400
P4 3.2 GHz, 800 FSB
1 GB 533 DDR2
256 PCI Express Geforce 6800 GTO
Philips burner
I added a 2nd one
already owned a mx700
They sent me a free 19" lcd which i sold to my roommate
bought 2 19" ultrashap lcd's
1 year warranty

Now the kicker, I paid in total around $800 for it total after a glitch in all the deals i found (I was able to combine like 3 coupons which wasn't suppose to work and was taken off in less then 3 hours after I bought it.) I found another deal for 200 off the ultrasharps, and I sold my 17 and 19 (free) for practically the same price as the ultra's

Spike, i feel your love when you hate dells but you have to buy one anyways, I was almost at the checkout from newegg and tiger building my own when i decided to go browse for deals :)
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Spikeroo on May 02, 2005, 10:33:52 AM: Woot...

But did you get free shipping? And how about that neat blue tower case with the blue lights? LOL. No comparison.

J/K. Nice job - Dells ain't so bad - you just have to be savvy sometimes if you want to upgrade or change anything.

:mrgreen: Mr. Green says "I had a Dell once...yeah...a farmer's daughter in da Dell...wuz her name? It was f'ed man...der wuz whole bunch of aneeemals makin' noizes and shitz too...I dink they wuz saying 'Go Mr. Green GO!' "
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Privateer on May 02, 2005, 12:47:35 PM: hah i got free shipping, any and every coupon that works for dell has free shipping.

You do have a better tower, i'll give ya that :)

Mr. Green said he was impressed by my excellent deal, and that is all I really care about anyways
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Poops Mcgee on May 02, 2005, 06:41:03 PM: well it's not really that it's a dell that makes a computer inferior, it's the fact that pretty much any comp manufacturer doesn't use retail level components. and the companies that do, like falcon northwest and voodoo, cost so much it isn't worth the price to get them to put it together for ya. and the fact that youse got intel only puts you further from the top. lols

amd and ati owns all youse
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Privateer on May 02, 2005, 07:16:20 PM: come in the server and say that :-D
Title: Re: Source Compute requirements
Post by: Poops Mcgee on May 02, 2005, 08:05:38 PM: ehh i would, but while amd and ati owns you, adelphia does not. they own and abuse me like a whipping boy. for about 3 months now i have had a pretty bad problem with intermittent packet loss. and by intermittent, i mean really really intermittent. some of you may have noticed that i will be in your server maybe for hours, then i get kicked for >200 ping. and my normal ping is about 40. like tonight just 30 mins ago, was craving some TE CS:S goodness. but saw some clanmates in our rtcw server so i jumped in there to frag it up. after about 15 minutes my connection went to crap and now i guess i'm done for the night. really sucks. even right now as i am browsing the TE forum i am monitoring about 70% packet loss. i am at my wits end with adelphia, although that may have been a short trip. they have no idea what is going on and i have had techs out to my house a dozen times and have had 41 service tickets with adelphia since feb.3. i am even on my 3rd modem from them. although that doesn't mean anything cuz there wasn't anything wrong with the modem in the first place. it is somewhere in their network, or cmts as they call it. i have no idea what that is other than the upstream i am on that has 43 connections. it will handle 600 btw. yeah i'm that rural. lols. when my connection is working it is really good. 5Mbit down, 512 Kbit up.