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Server Forum => Team Fortress 2 Pub (72.5.152.147) => Topic started by: Hitman Smurf on June 28, 2008, 06:17:57 PM

Title: Class Limitations
Post by: Hitman Smurf on June 28, 2008, 06:17:57 PM
What do you think about class limitations on the server? Tell us what you voted and why.

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Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: RaGe on June 28, 2008, 07:14:39 PM
Voted No. I posted this in the priv so i just quoted myself here.

Ok i have said before I did not like that plugin. They decide to release an update and yes everyone is going to play that class. It only goes on for so long and it dies down. If they cant come to our server to play pyro, they will just go elsewhere. I'm all about a democracy here so I say we vote on it as a clan and maybe even the community to have that plugin. I haven't seen it yet, but I have been a little busy around here at home. My problem with it is I change classes, a lot. 2fort for example, if i cannot get across bridge without losing most of my health or getting shot because of a talented sniper i will switch to counter snipe. Now what if we have it limited to 2 snipers and two scrubs are already using that class and obviously not doing their job? It ruins the game for me cause all i can do is sit in base because i can't get out. Yes i know you can go sewers but its long and not always as effective as taking over their overlook and going for intel. Like i said, i would just like a vote for it is all. If no one else feels the same way I do, that would be fine.
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: crazydog on June 29, 2008, 01:45:39 AM
No, because I only want them limited when class updates come out.
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: Giant Flying Head on June 29, 2008, 05:43:40 AM
I like them.
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: SConforti on June 29, 2008, 07:14:40 AM
I like them especially when there are only 4 people on the server.  You do not have to worry about scout rushes.  But I think the MAX class should be at 4, except for the latest updated class...I.E. Pyro.
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: fraggle 79 on June 29, 2008, 12:16:55 PM
Don't like them , b/c I want to be able to play whatever class I like at the moment.
Otherwise I'll just play on a different server.

Now if it were to apply somehow to non-TE players, some mod that exempts people with admin,,
then maybe that could work without pissing of our members.
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: Video_Master on June 29, 2008, 01:01:15 PM
ALL ADMINS ARE EXEMPT and always have been.  Why is it that hard for people to understand?
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: tritt88 on June 29, 2008, 01:16:36 PM
definitley No, just like rage said if someones not doin their job we should hav a right to any class we want
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: Giant Flying Head on June 29, 2008, 02:10:53 PM
Please read donkeis! Admins are immune to the class limitations.
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: RaGe on June 29, 2008, 02:23:10 PM
ALL ADMINS ARE EXEMPT and always have been.  Why is it that hard for people to understand?

Why is it so hard for ppl to understand? BECAUSE NOBODY SAID THAT EVER BEFORE.

Also if it can be set up so admins are immune why can't we set it up so admins are immune to being auto team switched?
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: Video_Master on June 29, 2008, 04:56:25 PM
definitley No, just like rage said if someones not doin their job we should hav a right to any class we want

YOU do have teh right to any class you want no matter what.
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: Video_Master on June 29, 2008, 04:57:12 PM
ALL ADMINS ARE EXEMPT and always have been.  Why is it that hard for people to understand?

Why is it so hard for ppl to understand? BECAUSE NOBODY SAID THAT EVER BEFORE.

Also if it can be set up so admins are immune why can't we set it up so admins are immune to being auto team switched?

find me a good pluggin for this and I will implement it and we can check it out.
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: _Ashes2Ashes_ on June 29, 2008, 08:52:57 PM
I understand why people may want this, but class overload and class balance is part of the game. So are scout rushes. So are, sadly, four snipers. The classes are, generally, well balanced and if there is an overload of something there usually is an effective counter for it. Don't strip your guests the ability to play how they want and what they want. When that happens to me I leave and go elsewhere.
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: Hitman Smurf on June 29, 2008, 10:54:22 PM
After some of the comments, and playing with the limits today, I'm really starting to dislike them. While the intent of balance is good, I think it takes away options and frustrates teams that need "just one more" of a certain class to push through and win.
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: Holy Shit on June 30, 2008, 12:30:10 AM
i think that they are not for us...we are about letting people have fun and play what they want...if someone comes in and gets limited, they might leave the server and go somewhere else and i thought that we always wanted to bring traffic into the server not make people leave....
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: Video_Master on June 30, 2008, 06:48:41 AM
Please list the map and what the restriction was that affected you.
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: Video_Master on June 30, 2008, 06:51:04 AM
Also 2 of the NO votes should be changed to YES votes since what Rage and Fraggle said is if the admins are not affected then they do not have a problem with the limitations.
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: Hitman Smurf on June 30, 2008, 09:39:59 AM
I just don't think it's fair to other players who can't change class if we can do it at will. It should be the same all around or not at all, and I think if we had to play with them we wouldn't like them either. They're great when a new upgrade comes out, but other than that they do nothing but make a player find a server where they can play what they want. People like our server for a reason, let's not give them a reason to leave. If they do, I don't blame them. The games being played recently have not been more balanced, just more frustrating. They are not worth the complaints and frustration.
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: Video_Master on June 30, 2008, 10:50:31 AM
Again, Smurf I ask what map and what was being affected so I can look into the issue.  I am trying to be very good about this and want to fix it, but some limitations still need to be in affect I think.
Title: Re: Class Limitations
Post by: RaGe on June 30, 2008, 01:59:24 PM
Also 2 of the NO votes should be changed to YES votes since what Rage and Fraggle said is if the admins are not affected then they do not have a problem with the limitations.

I don't want to change my vote. Like I said I'm all about a democracy here. Yesterday I seen guy join and say, "not another one of these limitation server" and left. Like Holy said, I enjoy bringing new people to the community and if its going send people packing then I think it should go. Yes personally it makes no difference to me cause I'm immune, but we do have many regulars that will not be and will cause them problems. I still say nay.