The Elders' House of Pain
Public Forum => Pc Help/Tweak Page => Topic started by: RaGe on May 24, 2008, 04:24:10 PM
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Well I'm not going to get into details but my Step-dad wants me to build him a new PC. Yes i did just build him one, but he sold it and now he wants a new one. His top price is 2000$. He for sure wants an old style (BLUE AND SILVER) G15 Keyboard and wants to run vista64 ultimate and a 22" widescreen LCD monitor. Everything else is up in the air. I built him one for around 1982.00 on newegg and included a set of 2:1 speakers. Anyone bored whip up a wishlist or something and post it up. Just looking for sum input. Thanks guys
-RaGe
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What's he doing with it?
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I threw something together real quick it should be a really really good rig for him. Its 8800gt sli, 250gb, vista x64 Ultimate, 4gb DDR2 1066, 3Ghz Intel, Asus true dolby digital sound card, altec lansing 2.1 speakers, and your 22" Widescreen monitor.
Sry i didnt include i link I swore to all hell i did.
https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=7935072&WishListTitle=Rage+Father (https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=7935072&WishListTitle=Rage+Father)
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vista x64 Ultimate for a gaming rig? that sucks 2gb of RAM right there :puke:
sorry
<-- anti-vista gamer
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I put together a shared wish list on newegg for just under $2,000. Contains vast majority of stuff you want including monitor, mouse, speakers, etc. but I may have missed a couple of small things. Clearly, there are a lot of decisions for you to make wrt should you sacrifice on case, sound, etc. to get a better graphics card, do you really need a $50 mouse, etc.
Final price doesn't include benefit of mail-in rebates but also excludes shipping costs.
Wish list is called "Rig for RaGe"
Parts are:
1 Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $119.99
1 ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $249.99
2 DIAMOND Viper 3870PE4512SB Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail $329.98
1 COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-750-ACAA-A1 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply - Retail $129.99
1 Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400 - Retail $194.99
1 OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR10664GK - Retail $122.99
2 Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $169.98
1 SAMSUNG 2253BW Black 22" 2ms(GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail $289.99
1 Logitech G5 2-Tone 7 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Laser Mouse - Retail $49.99
1 SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S203N - OEM $28.99
1 Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM $169.99
1 Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM $5.99
1 ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail $26.99
1 Logitech Z-2300 200 watts RMS 2.1 Speaker System - Retail $90.99
Subtotal: $1,980.84
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today - woot.com - g3 gaming mouse for $25. good deal
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https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=7935072&WishListTitle=Rage+Father (https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=7935072&WishListTitle=Rage+Father)
First off luggage going ati is not good I am an ATI fanboy and I even say this. Also the freezer is just as good as the stock cooler unfortunately. Also always include a floppy drive. I dont care what people say its better to have it and not need it. As i needed mine for my bios that is fucked right now. WD also have have more of a tendency to die adnt he fact of the matter is they have very low cash so if you are trying to move large files its a bitch. The case doesnt have a removable mb tray which is a very nice feature and one a case should have especially at that price. Along with that the position of the powersupply would require you to make sure you have extra long cables coming off your power supply. That along with the fact that there is nothing helping to keep the power supply heat from coming in the case is bad. Frankly its been proven that hard drives dont need to be cooled as much as was originally thought so the front 120mm fans arnt great. Then there is the fact that most mobo are manufactured to have cool air blowing down on them against the board to create the cooling in which case the 120mm fan in the back does not help with that. What would help would be a side fan. Then there is your power supply it does not have a single 12v rail which means it is not going to have as stable voltages also the fact that its a single fan and not a dual fan means its not as good as pc power and cooling. I threw on a Xigmatek http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=5&artpage=3452&articID=827 (http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=5&artpage=3452&articID=827) cooler its a direct heatpipe heatsink setup so it cools really well its just under the 80 dollar thermalright coolers. Samsung burner is better so i changed that in mine. I went with the mx518. I also dont have onboard sound which is a plus.
I have spent some time modifying things. I managed to get the price lower. It will also have some extreme cooling and you will have to move the one 80mm fan on the side to the outside of the window its not hard to do though. The heatsink will just fit as it is what I have in mine. Replacing the 120mm with the silverstone one will be much better performance. I have the coolest temps on air cooling on techpowerup and i dont even have the 2 80mm fans in the front that I added on your build. It should perform like a beast if you get my build.
BTW this post was just done for informational reasons into why i do what i do for builds. There is probably a bunch of other things i didnt think of but i want to play tf2 now so...
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Here is a build that I did for you.
https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=9604428&WishListTitle=Build+for+Rage
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Just did a build for Captain 24:
Intel C2Q 6700 2.66 w Thermaltake typhoon
XFX 680i
2 gigs of OCZ 800 mhz ddr2
2 x EVGA 9600 GT 512 superclocked sli
320 gig sata hd
sony dvd-rw
Ultra case
800 watt psu (cant remember the name)
Vista Ultimate 64
He had around $900 in it and some change. Runs like a scalded dog! No more 8 fps for him...
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vista x64 Ultimate for a gaming rig? that sucks 2gb of RAM right there :puke:
sorry
<-- anti-vista gamer
Run 8 gigs and have six to spare...
:mrgreen:
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9600gt don't perform as well as 8800gt the powersupply i listed has a peak of 850w and sustained power at 750w. Quad core is extremely useless at this point nothing takes full advantage of it including vista. I included the price of vista ultimate. Check the ftp this would give you more money to mess with lol.
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get an OLPC and play original doom instead.
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nice thanks guys. Got question tho, I see everyone has gone for the dual-core over a quad. Any particular reason?
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nice thanks guys. Got question tho, I see everyone has gone for the dual-core over a quad. Any particular reason?
Quad-core isn't really supported yet by software or operating systems.
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I have a quad core, and love it. Really easy to overclock it, but you will get better performance, as of now, with the dual core.
Here is alittle something I put together on NewEgg. I saved it as a personal Wishlist tho, so im just going to copy and past the stuff.
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $109.99
EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $259.99
Dual EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail in SLI $379.98
Antec TPQ-850 850W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply - Retail (Modualer) $159.00
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400 - Retail $189.99
(2x) (4GB) Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA1065 - Retail $151.98
Dual (1TB) Western Digital Caviar GP 500GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM 179.98
Logitech G5 2-Tone 7 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Laser Mouse - Retail $49.99
LG 20X DVD±R Super Multi DVD Burner Black ATAPI / E-IDE Model GSA-H55NK - OEM $24.99
Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM $169.99
ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail $54.99
SAMSUNG 220WM Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail $269.99
Subtotal $2000.86
Pretty good comp, for 2G's.
~WondeR.
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No reason to slam shit because you cant afford it. Get a job....
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wth are you talking about. I go for quality / price balance if you were talking to me. I also even stated i wasnt't slammin stuff and that it was merely so people look for these things also. Just because it costs more doesn't mean its better. Also i believe in best bang for the buck so i might be a little more frugle but the last time i checked it wasn't a bad thing. Also I would say take a look at all the review sites out there compare the parts and what you are getting out of the system. As for the huge hd you guys are putting in even at vista being 20 gigs most games dont exceed 8-12gigs. Raid is a nice thing i dont disagree but the performance hit you take from not including a sound card will be greater.
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I like wonder's system. Only word of caution is that Crucial Ballistix has been having a lot of quality issues lately. Just check out reviews on newegg, particularly on the DDR2 800 sticks (assuming these issues carry over to the 1066 sticks as well). These sticks OC like champs (1066 easy) but I personally got 3 bad sets in a row and looking at other reviews & google searches found that I am not the only one. Apparently (from what folks say; beyond my limited understanding), company made a design change (2 sided to 1 sided) which may have led to quality degradation.
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Out of curiosity, which system did you end up going with RaGe?
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Got a guy at work that is looking to buy a retail pc, but i told him i would look into building one. Figured i would check this thread cause I forgot about it. My step dad ended up falling off the wagon again and is all fuxed up on god knows what. He just wrecked my moms 3 week old 08 civic. Not going to be building a rig for him cause hes gonna be spending a little time in jail. As for the guy at work, i'm not sure if i wanna build one for him or just tell him to buy from bestbuy or something.