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Public Forum => Pc Help/Tweak Page => Topic started by: Holy Shit on February 12, 2008, 05:36:01 PM

Title: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: Holy Shit on February 12, 2008, 05:36:01 PM
Ok so when i am in a server my pc tends to ping at whatever the server is pinging at....different servers have different ping and what not...it doesnt matter what server i am in my ping mirrors the server...I have a Cable 256 or 500k (cant remember) direct line internet connection...so i ask is there any way to lower my ping, because in gg it always hovering around 70 (the ping of the server as it appears to me)???  The only program that i run in the background is vent and when i dont run it there is no change..
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: Hitman Smurf on February 12, 2008, 05:49:31 PM
I have a similar problem, although my system specs may be at fault as well. I'm pretty sure my ISP sucks so it may be that. If I could get into the router I might be able to fix that.
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: MR|337 on February 12, 2008, 06:21:47 PM
I'd say it's your route to the server. I just upped to twice my speed, and notice nothing game-wise. I'm getting 12k up and 768 down. Noobinhood did the same with like results, but we ping in the high 30's to mid 40's....
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: Hitman Smurf on February 12, 2008, 07:06:30 PM
Well, if this helps any

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/233757959.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: MR|337 on February 12, 2008, 07:49:37 PM
I'm running a little slow tonight...

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/233769121.png)
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: Hitman Smurf on February 13, 2008, 12:00:33 AM
Quote from: MR|337 on February 12, 2008, 07:49:37 PM
I'm running a little slow tonight...

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/233769121.png)

Way better than me.
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: MR|337 on February 13, 2008, 12:36:20 AM
Better..

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/233828181.png)
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: Hitman Smurf on February 13, 2008, 01:30:56 AM
I changed a few things and got a slightly improved result

New York Server (close to our servers)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/233836986.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Cincinnati Server (recommended)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/233837652.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Wish our servers were closer to me LOL

Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: MR|337 on February 13, 2008, 01:37:51 AM
Usually a Washington DC server shows up, it's more inline with my pings I get on our servers.

The Fredrick MD one is an alternate but not quite as close.
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: Hitman Smurf on February 13, 2008, 01:47:32 AM
Quote from: MR|337 on February 13, 2008, 01:37:51 AM
The Fredrick MD one is an alternate but not quite as close.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/233839967.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Same ping but bad download speed....maybe I need to change my cl_updaterate?
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: Giant Flying Head on February 13, 2008, 05:24:04 AM
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/233884758.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
I got a new modem and got marginal better score, sort of. I was getting 9000 - 1200. I don't know why the upload speed is way down.
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: Video_Master on February 13, 2008, 06:04:40 AM
West Coast Test:

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/233894254.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Central Test:

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/233894701.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

East Coast Test:

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/233895223.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: WidowMaker on February 13, 2008, 07:28:50 AM
your ping all depends on your hops to the server, you can change your rates a little to help slightly but nothing significant. Unfortunately your ISP controls your hops so there is really nothing much you can do about it. What you can do is udjust your rate so you can send/receive the right amount of info for the connection you have.
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C:\Documents and Settings\Ray>tracert 69.31.15.144

Tracing route to 69.31.15.144 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2     4 ms     4 ms     4 ms  L100.VFTTP-01.PRVDRI.verizon-gni.net [71.245.74.1]
  3     3 ms     4 ms     5 ms  P1-3.LCR-02.PRVDRI.verizon-gni.net [130.81.32.118]
  4     6 ms     7 ms     7 ms  130.81.28.128
  5     8 ms     7 ms     7 ms  0.so-6-2-0.XL2.BOS4.ALTER.NET [152.63.19.169]
  6    21 ms    22 ms    22 ms  0.so-6-0-0.XL4.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.130]
  7    24 ms    24 ms    24 ms  152.63.41.25
  8    24 ms    24 ms    27 ms  . [209.9.224.153]
  9    26 ms    27 ms    27 ms  69.31.15.144

Trace complete.
only 9 hops and one of those is to my wireless router. When I had cox cable it was 16 hops.

by the way FIOS RULES!! check out the speed below

Weird how your speed changes video

Central
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/233918060.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

West
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/233919141.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

East is below

Widow
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: Video_Master on February 13, 2008, 08:22:27 AM
Trace Routes are very nice to see what is happening.  Like why in the hell are they sending me to Omaha and then to Denver and then to Chicago for my routes?  That is so screwed up.  They should go from Minnesota to Chicago and it would greatly improve my response.

C:\Users\Video Master>tracert 69.31.15.144

Tracing route to 69.31.15.144 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     1 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  c-76-113-144-172.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [76.113.144.172]
  2     8 ms     7 ms     7 ms  192.168.1.1
  3     8 ms    10 ms     *     ge-9-2-ur01.hamlake.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.85.165.233]
  4     9 ms     *        8 ms  te-8-3-ur02.hamlake.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.87.174.66]
  5     8 ms     8 ms     *     te-2-2-ar02.roseville.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.87.174.69]
  6    40 ms    50 ms    39 ms  te-0-0-0-0-cr01.omaha.ne.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.84.29]
  7    42 ms    40 ms    42 ms  COMCAST-IP.car2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.79.82.54]
  8    41 ms    40 ms    40 ms  te-3-3.car2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.79.82.53]
  9    47 ms    53 ms    54 ms  ae-31-51.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.68.107.30]
 10    46 ms    53 ms    54 ms  ae-1-100.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.38]
 11    44 ms    52 ms    54 ms  ae-3.ebr3.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.132.62]
 12    63 ms    56 ms    55 ms  ae-2.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.132.70]
 13    55 ms    69 ms    55 ms  ae-92-92.csw4.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.134.158]
 14    56 ms    56 ms    57 ms  ae-44-99.car4.Washington1.Level3.net [4.68.17.198]
 15    55 ms    57 ms    55 ms  GIGABIT-1-6.COLO2.ASH1.PTPTECH.NET [209.9.224.137]
 16    57 ms    57 ms    56 ms  69.31.15.144

Trace complete.
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: Hitman Smurf on February 13, 2008, 09:49:47 AM
thats why I wish I could get into the router and change the routing table.

Ventrillo Server

tracert tx1.leetvent.com

Tracing route to TX1.LeetVent.com [75.126.14.156]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    43 ms    44 ms    44 ms  208.103.32.1.etczone.com [208.103.32.1]
  3    44 ms    44 ms    44 ms  208.103.6.161.etczone.com [208.103.6.161]
  4    58 ms    57 ms    57 ms  ip-64-184-0-99.indianafiber.net [64.184.0.99]
  5    58 ms    57 ms    57 ms  Gi4-0.CustomerD.IND.IQuest.net [206.53.231.1]
  6    55 ms    53 ms    55 ms  Gi2-4.RRB.IND.IQuest.net [206.246.181.13]
  7    54 ms    53 ms    53 ms  Gi7-0.GSRCoreA.IND.IQuest.net [206.246.181.2]
  8    55 ms    55 ms    55 ms  sl-gw20-roa-5-3.sprintlink.net [144.228.176.189]
  9    54 ms    55 ms    55 ms  sl-bb20-roa-2-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.17.189]
 10    59 ms    59 ms    58 ms  sl-bb22-chi-4-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.18.36]
 11    68 ms    68 ms    68 ms  sl-bb21-kc-3-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.129]
 12    68 ms    68 ms    70 ms  sl-bb20-kc-15-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.2.117]
 13    88 ms    86 ms    87 ms  sl-crs1-fw-0-4-0-1.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.56]
 14    88 ms    88 ms    87 ms  sl-st20-dal-12-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.193]
 15    78 ms    79 ms    79 ms  144.228.250.114
 16    78 ms    79 ms    80 ms  border3.tge3-1-bbnet1.ext1.dal.pnap.net [216.52.191.22]
 17   157 ms   215 ms   208 ms  softlayer-8.border3.ext1.dal.pnap.net [216.52.189.30]
 18    79 ms   124 ms    80 ms  po52.fcr01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.118.158]
 19    80 ms    81 ms    79 ms  leetvent11.com [75.126.14.156]

Trace complete.

Why am I going to dallas?


The Elders | Team Fortress 2 Part deux .:HLstatsX:.

tracert 69.31.15.143

Tracing route to 69.31.15.143 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    44 ms    44 ms    42 ms  208.103.32.1.etczone.com [208.103.32.1]
  3    43 ms    43 ms    44 ms  208.103.6.161.etczone.com [208.103.6.161]
  4    57 ms    56 ms    57 ms  ip-64-184-0-99.indianafiber.net [64.184.0.99]
  5    57 ms    59 ms    57 ms  Gi4-0.CustomerD.IND.IQuest.net [206.53.231.1]
  6    57 ms    59 ms    57 ms  Gi2-4.RRA.IND.IQuest.net [209.43.90.13]
  7    57 ms    57 ms    57 ms  Gi2-0.GSRCoreB.IND.IQuest.net [209.43.90.6]
  8    57 ms    59 ms    59 ms  GigabitEthernet5-3.GW1.IND6.ALTER.NET [65.195.244.173]
  9    60 ms    59 ms    59 ms  0.so-1-0-1.XL1.IND6.ALTER.NET [152.63.68.170]
 10    88 ms    89 ms    88 ms  0.so-6-0-0.XL3.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.138]
 11    88 ms    89 ms    88 ms  152.63.41.21
 12    87 ms    85 ms    85 ms  . [209.9.224.153]
 13    85 ms    86 ms    85 ms  69.31.15.143

Trace complete.

Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: Video_Master on February 13, 2008, 11:55:46 AM
The reason you are going to Dallas is cause that is where the VENT Server is being hosted at.  Here is my Tracert to the Vent Server.  You will notice that my response times are much better to the VENT Server then to the Game Servers.

C:\Users\Video Master>tracert 75.126.14.156

Tracing route to leetvent11.com [75.126.14.156]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  c-76-113-144-172.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [76.113.144.172]
  2     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  192.168.1.1
  3    11 ms     *        8 ms  ge-9-1-ur02.hamlake.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.85.165.229]
  4    12 ms     *        7 ms  te-2-2-ar02.roseville.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.87.174.69]
  5    40 ms    39 ms    40 ms  te-0-0-0-0-cr01.omaha.ne.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.84.29]
  6    41 ms    41 ms    41 ms  COMCAST-IP.car2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.79.82.54]
  7    40 ms    41 ms    39 ms  te-3-3.car2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.79.82.53]
  8    41 ms    50 ms    53 ms  ae-32-52.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.68.107.62]
  9    52 ms    54 ms    53 ms  ae-1-100.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.37]
 10    45 ms    54 ms    52 ms  ae-2.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.132.106]
 11    39 ms    38 ms    50 ms  ae-72-72.csw2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.142]
 12    44 ms    42 ms    43 ms  ae-2-79.edge3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.19.72]
 13    44 ms    43 ms    43 ms  te7-2.cer01.dal01.dallas-border.com [4.71.198.18]
 14    43 ms    43 ms    45 ms  po51.fcr01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.118.150]
 15    41 ms    41 ms    42 ms  leetvent11.com [75.126.14.156]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: Holy Shit on February 13, 2008, 02:21:06 PM
All of this was really cool and stuff, but how the hell do you get that stuff to show up :?    idk what to do lol im a noob with router stuff
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: snyper133 on February 13, 2008, 02:54:55 PM
Start->All Programs->Accessories->Command Prompt

or

Windows Key + R-> Type "cmd"-> Hit Enter

You should see a black screen with white letters that says
"C:\Documents and Settings\*name of user*" for XP
"C:\Users\*name of user* for Vista

Type "tracert *ipaddress*->Enter
Title: Re: Any way to lower ping?
Post by: Hitman Smurf on February 23, 2008, 02:41:50 AM
My network performance has improved with the new PC.

The old score:

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/233839967.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

The new score:

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/237820888.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)