The Elders' House of Pain
Public Forum => Pc Help/Tweak Page => Topic started by: wonder. on November 17, 2007, 06:49:50 PM
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Ok guys, im thinking of building a new Comp, and i have saved up some cash from working during the summer and just over time. I kinda of want one that works really well and will last me through college. ( another 5 1/2 years. Only a jun in highschool). So here is what I was thinking of.
Case: Coolermaster Cosmos
Mobo: Evga nforce 680i T1 edition
CPU: Intel QX6850 (not sure about this)
Power Supply: Silencer 750 watt quad
Ram: Corsair DHX XMs2 Dominator (4GB)
Hard Drive: 2 Western Digital Raptors (74GB each) (not sure about this either)
Liquid Cooling: Coolermaster Aquagate
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme fatality pro
Video Card: XFX Geforce 8800 GTX 768mb PCI Express (comes with a free gaming headset)
Op Drive 1: Lite-on Super multi LH2A1H 20x DVD Burner
Op Drive 2: HP 20x DVD Burner
Mouse: Razer Death Adder
Keyboard: Razer Tarantula
I was thinking about getting a Bigfoot Killer M1 network card, but that is $250, so i think that is out of the question. So any suggestions? Prob could make alot of improvements to help the price, but im not great with this stuff. So any input is helpful. Thanks.
~Wonder.
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If youre going with vista, forget about the sound card. I had to yank mine (same one). Lots of complaints on the creative forum too. Card is great in xp though. The evga board should have built in nvidia sound which is good stuff, save your money.
Get a core 2 quad 6600. Save a few bucks, it really is a great cpu which I have found nothing that slows it down.
I would also get all sata drives including the dvd ones, the cables are thin and it makes things much tidier inside, not to mention improving speed and air flow.
Vid card; switch brands to evga, forget the cheap 20 dollar freebie headphones. evga = life time warranty, and you can trade up.
I also dont suggest that dominator ram. Unless your rig is going to be an overclocker, just get some of their better memory that has epp.
The aquagate is shit. I had one, lasted about two months and the pump quit working. Also the resevoir plug threads are cheap and easy to cross thread. If you insist on water cooling dont get one of those cheap all in one kits. A good aftermarket heatsink should really be all you need.
The hard drives; If you want your maps to load faster, get the 10k rpm raptors. Unless a raid set up is planned, just get a small 10k rpm drive (less than 80gb) for your os and games. Add a 300gb WD for storage.
The razor stuff; I dont like it, but to each their own. I would suggest Logitech.
The power supply is the single most important part of your rig. Dont skimp on it, get a name brand and not some 50 dollar unit that claims to have a jillion watts. Buy the biggest one possible, 1kw so when you decide to add that second 8800 and sli, the power is there and would be no need to buy a new psu. 750 watts wont cut the mustard with dual 8800's I dont care what they say, as it's barely enough for a single 8800..
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Thanks for the advice leet. About the power supply though, i decided to go with that one, I saw it in a magazine i was reading, Maximum PC and it was used in the Dream Machine '07. The power supply got great reviews and they used it with dual XFX Geforce 8800 ultra XXX editions. So i think it will work pretty well. Here is what it is listed as: PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750 quad. Also, yea i think im gonna go with XP. I just like how the system runs. About the video Card, I really didn't know the difference between XFX and Evga. And yes, I plan to run raid with the Raptors. Thanks for the help.
Also, what RAM would you suggest?
~Wonder.
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What kind of budget we looking at here???
Can look here to see what I was looking to get
http://theelders.net/forum/index.php?topic=5283.15
I have changed my mind about a coupls of things, like the memory and the processor. Like LEET said I would go with that quad core he suggested.
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Yea, i decided to go with some changes, such as the CPU. Prob gonna go with the Q6600 now. Budget is about 2500 maybe 3000. I want something that will last me through college. So, with the money i would have saved with the Q6600, I decided to go with an evga 8800 ultra. And i changed the ram. Seemed like a good deal, and got some good reviews. For $50, you get 2GB of OCZ SLI ready Dual Chan ram. So 4GB for $100, with a product that got pretty good consumer reviews.
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I did alot of digging before I bought all my current stuff and this was the best combo I found out there.
CPU - E6850
Mobo - ASUS P5NE-32 SLI
RAM - 4GB of OCZ Reaper PC2-8500
VC - EVGA 8800 Ultra
Hard Drives - Currently have 2 Raptor 73GB drives in Raid 0 but going to switch to single 320GB drive
Case - Antec Nine Hundred
Power Supply - OCZ GameXStream 850W
CPU Cooler - Tunic Tower 120 - 120mm Fan in the middle of the 5 pound heatsink
Northbridge and Southbridge Coolers - Thermal Take Spirit II each has a 40mm fan on the cooling fins which also have heat pipe.
I will be getting a 2nd 8800 Ultra cause Crysis KILLS my machine when running in 2560x1600 on even medium settings. I get about 25 - 35 frames per second.
(http://www.mnrottie.org/mustang/comp/comp2_small.jpg)
(http://www.mnrottie.org/mustang/comp/comp3_small.jpg)
(http://www.mnrottie.org/mustang/comp/comp1_small.jpg)
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PCP&C are great psu's..The OCZ ram; check on evga site to see if it is tested to work with the mobo before buying it.
This is your board, right?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2945261&CatId=1533 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2945261&CatId=1533)
I'd get this for memory, it will work with the mobo and the vid card as it is designed to using epp.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2206874&CatId=2368 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2206874&CatId=2368)
(http://images.tigerdirect.com/skuimages/large/Corsair-Twix-DDR2-XMS.jpg)
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I agree about crysis, unless I turn down a bunch of stuff, it runs like shit for me at 1680x1050 on an 8800 Ultra. I bet that tuniq was a bitch to mount to the mobo, eh?
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Yea thats the board leet. Thanks for the advice.
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Just a bit of info for your Vid card...
The 8800GT's are very good and much cheaper, about $300 and dropping. Specs and performance are very good.
Each has 512Mb Ram.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130306
hell if you're up for it get 2.
And I don't think you'll actually use it 5 yrs. Between parts dying, getting slow, and drunken college parties
it's very unlikely. I give it maybe up to 3 1/2yrs.
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Fraggle has a good point. For the price of one Ultra, could have two GT and sli. Wish they had those when I got my card some time back...
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might want to keep an eye on that mother board. Reading reviews they seem to have alot of DOA's with them.
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why not just spend ~$1.5k and build a computer that will work well for 2 years, then spend another 1k 2 years down the line and upgrade your shit? To me that makes more sense than dumping (what I assume to be) close to $2.5k on a computer that will be outdated in 3-4 years
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:iamwithstupid:
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Definitely get a Q6600 instead of the QX6850. You can EASILY overclock the Q6600 up to (or way past) the QX6850 on air cooling while saving a big chunk of change. Same performance, huge price difference.
Stick with the 8800GTX but go with EVGA or BFG for lifetime warranty. Ultra doesn't really give you enough real-world performance gain to warrant the extra price premium. Or get 2 of the new 8800GT's like many have said.
You won't be able to use 4gb of RAM if you run a 32-bit OS. A 32-bit OS can only address 4gb of memory for the WHOLE system. With the video card ram (i.e. 8800GTX with 768mb) and the other components, you'll really only have about 3gb of memory left to use.
I would've gone for Vista 64-bit if not for driver and application compatibility issues so I stuck with Win XP Pro 32-bit which is rock stable. If you want to go 64-bit do research first and make sure all the drivers and programs you'll be using don't have issues.
MR|337 mentioned this but Creative driver support on Vista and especially 64-bit is PISS POOR and there have not been any signs of improvement for a long time.
This is the memory I got for my recent build:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820146565
$50 after rebate!! They used to be more than double that price just 2-3 months ago; memory prices are in the gutter right now. These are Micron D9 memory modules which are very reliable and overclockable. They're used in the premium lines of several memory brands. Crucial is the retail arm of Micron so it's straight from the source.
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Hey Bread,
Ya have a good rig so far man. A couple of things you need to think about:
1) 5 years in the computer world is nearly unrealistic, make sure that no matter what parts you get you may have problems 5 months down the line or never. It's a game of luck.
2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188013&Tpk=680i%2bA1 is a much better board. More stable and for the type of processor your going for it will do a better job.
3) Leet hit it dead on get a Q6600 or Q6700. Unless you want to waste money just skip the extreme editions.
4) Best Power Supply period. Good Job.
5) Again Leet hit it dead on. Unless you overclock don't get dominators. Dominators tend to run extremely hot before overclocking. The name of the name is cooling, the cooler the better. Leet has good RAM linked. The Funk has taken the words out of my mouth. Crucial Ballistix memory is some of the best memory and it will take advantage of the 680i chipset better then the Corsair would. Again unless you get Ultimate x64 or even XP Pro 64Bit edition ( NOT A TRUE 64BIT OPERATING SYSTEM JUST HANDLES 4 GB OF RAM EFFICIENTLY) 4GB of Ram is useless the highest you'll be able to go is 3.25GB.
6) Don't raid if you will be depending on this computer especially for school. While RAID 0 (Striping) is great for performance and RAID 1 (Mirroring) is great for disaster recovery, what I would do is get a Raptor X (150GB) for your boot and programs, and a nicely sized hard drive to store all your crap on. I have a Raptor X that has Vista installed, a Regular Raptor that has XP installed, then a 400GB Seagate 7200RPM Hard drive for my files which can be accessed on both OS's.
7) Which aquagate? If it is the S1 or something like that you'll actually get lower temps by running standard air cooling. I have personal experience (not in my rig but a replacement LCS for my buddy's peice of shit prebuilt) which the temperatures went up from the replacement. Air cooling should do you just fine unless you are overclocking. The Zalman CNPS 9500LED (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118223) is one of the best silent coolers out there right now. It lowered my temps 15 degrees (C ) with artic silver 5. Oh yea get Artic Silver 5 for your thermal paste. Air cooling will be a lot easier to maintain over time as well. I am not a big fan of LCS because of the routine maintenance and plus liquid + electronics=recipe for losing a ton of money.
8) XFX, eVGA, and BFG are usually the top three brands to go with with an GeForce Graphics card. They ALL have lifetime warranties. I would probably go with XFX they have a double lifetime warranty so if you wind up selling it to a friend or giving it to a friend something like that it will be covered for them as well. Also just a technicality ASUS has been making the reference boards for the 8XXX series of cards for nVidia which gives it slight performance enhancements over a comparable card from XFX, eVga, or BFG. I would still go with an 8800GTX, if you SLI you are now looking at two possible parts that can fail, however, Fraggle does bring up a very good point about those new nVidia cards.
9) I have four SATA DVD Burners, and I can tell you my case looks so much better without IDE, but not only that they are so much faster then IDE.
10) Don' waste your money on that LAN card. You won't see a difference unless you get on a T1 or higher connection. Even then just being on a t1 or higher is going to make the bigger difference.
Sorry it was such a lengthy post, however, you did a real good job putting together your first custom computer. Welcome to the world of custom builders.
Snyper
(P.S. I don't want to get into now, however, I have had no issues with my SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme Music and Ultimate x64 at all.)
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I think I may wait for the AMD phenom chips and motherboards. I read so many complaints about all the top of the line intel boards. Very little complaints about AMD boards. I think AMD has fewer problems because the memory controller is built on the CPU. I might have to go AMD spider!!!!!
http://multicore.amd.com/us-en/AMD-Multi-Core/Quad-Core-Advantage/Spider.aspx
Widow
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Yea it sucks to pay 150 bux for a sound card and not be able to use the damn thing (in vista) I had decided to put it in my vista box and it gave me nothing but grief for the few days I allowed it. Yanked it out and went back to onboard, and no problems. Made me so mad I stuck it in an envelope and sent it to some unsuspecting person. Worked like a champ in XP though. I noticed it made a diference in BF2 and Source...
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Thanks guys for the input. Im gonna change it around alittle.
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I think I may wait for the AMD phenom chips and motherboards. I read so many complaints about all the top of the line intel boards. Very little complaints about AMD boards. I think AMD has fewer problems because the memory controller is built on the CPU. I might have to go AMD spider!!!!!
http://multicore.amd.com/us-en/AMD-Multi-Core/Quad-Core-Advantage/Spider.aspx
Widow
Couple of things that suck about that.....
First the Phenom cores have yet to be really be benchmarked.
Second ATI graphics cards have sucked blown since the ATI merger.
I personally believe that the phenom cores will be a fad; a replacement for a lot of opteron servers but as far as the gaming/consumer market, only fanboys will go with them. I've been waiting for AMD to start challenging the market, but seeing half assed solutions like this just kind of upsets me. That's my two cents.
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Have you tried the new drivers for the X-Fi cards? They posted a new driver for vista 32bit and 64bit on 11-7-2007. I have yet to buy my sound card, just using onboard, but will be getting the Xtreme Gamer Pro version.
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yes I did, l tried them this past week on the initial install.
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Here is the new list: Let me know what you think.
I want to run XP. (prob gonna be XP pro, 64bit.)
Case: CoolerMaster Cosmos
MOBO: Evga Nvidia 680i SLI ATX
Power Supply: Silencer 750 Watt Quad
CPU: Intel Core2Quad Q6600
Vid Card: Dual XFX 8800 GTS (Extreme edition) (each is 320, is that a good price? Comes with a free copy of lost planet. Don't really care about the game, but would that bring up the price alittle?)
Sound: Gonna go with the onboard sound with this. Save the $180
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 240-pin DDR2 (2GB)
Hard Drives: Western Digital Raptor X 150GB
Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM ultra 400GB
Cooling: Thermal Take Big water 760i
Op drive 1: Lite On, super multi DVD burner 20x
Op drive 2: HP DvD 1040i light scribe 20x
So let me know what you think. Thanks alot guys.
~Wonder.
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WB, if you have never did watercooling, stay away from it. Get a good aftermarket heatsink and go with that. Whats the use to buy a wc kit for the cpu only? You got two vid cards to worry about and when you pull the factory stuff off of them to install a waterblock, you could void the warranty. Try it out without that stuff for a while, and if you cant stay away from it then try it. The 6600 isnt going to run too hot anyhow in that coolermaster case.
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So what would you recommend for me.. I need a new computer. I know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about computers.. i was going to buy an Alienware so i wouldn't have to deal with it. Good or bad idea?
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N00b
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Here is the new list: Let me know what you think.
I want to run XP. (prob gonna be XP pro, 64bit.)
Case: CoolerMaster Cosmos
MOBO: Evga Nvidia 680i SLI ATX
Power Supply: Silencer 750 Watt Quad
CPU: Intel Core2Quad Q6600
Vid Card: Dual XFX 8800 GTS (Extreme edition) (each is 320, is that a good price? Comes with a free copy of lost planet. Don't really care about the game, but would that bring up the price alittle?)
Sound: Gonna go with the onboard sound with this. Save the $180
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 240-pin DDR2 (2GB)
Hard Drives: Western Digital Raptor X 150GB
Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM ultra 400GB
Cooling: Thermal Take Big water 760i
Op drive 1: Lite On, super multi DVD burner 20x
Op drive 2: HP DvD 1040i light scribe 20x
So let me know what you think. Thanks alot guys.
~Wonder.
Do not get the GTS cards. Get the GT cards instead. They GT cards are much better. You can get a GT card for $300 and have better performance then a GTS card. That is for the super overclocked version too.
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Here is the new list: Let me know what you think.
I want to run XP. (prob gonna be XP pro, 64bit.)
Vid Card: Dual XFX 8800 GTS (Extreme edition) (each is 320, is that a good price? Comes with a free copy of lost planet. Don't really care about the game, but would that bring up the price alittle?)
Sound: Gonna go with the onboard sound with this. Save the $180
Cooling: Thermal Take Big water 760i
If your definitely going to be running XP you better hurry up and get it after December 31, 2007 Microsoft will stop selling XP, and are requiring retailers to follow their lead.
Inexperience + Liquid Cooling System = Recipe for disaster and Loss of money. If you INSIST on a LCS solution you're better off building it from scratch which I can help you with that IF you DEFINITELY want to go LCS. I hope you understand the positive and negatives of both air cooling and Liquid Cooling. Ask Widow about his experience :-P.
So what would you recommend for me.. I need a new computer. I know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about computers.. i was going to buy an Alienware so i wouldn't have to deal with it. Good or bad idea?
Aliewnware is nothing what it used to be. GG Dell for destroying Alienware's name. Suggestion customize a HP or Gateway or if you really have the money, or want a wicked computer check out Falcon Northwest or Voodoo Pc.
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what about like cyberpowerpc.com and Ibuypower.com Aren't those rather good? I was looking at them before, but i thought i could save some money building it myself.
Also, here was the liquid cooling system i looked up. It seemed rather easy to do. (i watched the video... lol.) but i guess ill just go with air cooling.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3302740&CatId=1057
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Dear Stayfen:
Never buy an Alienware computer. The end.
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On behalf of cyberpowerpc.com I WOLD NEVER BUY A PC from them. The reason....oh so many......
1) My buddy ordered a gaming PC they put in two none sliable cards with only 512MB of RAM.
2) Had a Aquagate LCS for the processor which failed after 8 months, which tech support could not figure out, it took two months for them to realize it was the LCS, and only after I was on the phone with them for 2 hours telling them it was a heating issue.
3) They sent my buddy out a new LCS for the dead one the Aquage S1, problem being it was significantly bigger then the Aquagate that was in there, problem with that is I called up tech support and they told me I could modify he case to get it to fit.
I would never go with a company like cyberpowerpc again. That includes iBuypower.com. If you buy prebuilt get a name brand period.
Bread get want you want I just wanted to present other insight that's all.
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Well im new to this, so i really value your oppinion. You guys know what your talking about much more than i do. I just want my new computer to perform well for what i am getting. I don't want to gimp my self by buying a part or something that can't use its potential because i don't have the right stuff. But thanks for all the insights.
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When i get some spare cash i'm going to test this Liquid cooling circuit that I came up with....it'll be expensive though....
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee174/snyper133/MTD-LCS.jpg)
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I was going to buy this case
http://thermaltakeusa.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/armor_lcs/ve2000swa.asp
It has the liquid cooling built in it. It's also aluminum so it's pretty light. They have a black case the same but it is metal and probably pretty heavy. I would go with non conductive liquid for the cooling.
http://reviews.pimprig.com/cooling/fluidxp_non-conductive_coolant.php
can get it here
http://www.xoxide.com/fluid-xp-extreme-coolant-blue.html
The 8800GT cards just came out and out perform the 8800GTS cards. They have collers for the 8800GTS cards and probably not long for the GT's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835127032
But to be honest, if you are not going to over clock anything I wouldn't even bother with the liquid cooling. Really no need for it.
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I was going to buy this case
http://thermaltakeusa.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/armor_lcs/ve2000swa.asp
It has the liquid cooling built in it. It's also aluminum so it's pretty light. They have a black case the same but it is metal and probably pretty heavy. I would go with non conductive liquid for the cooling.
That case is pretty tight...I don't think I need liquid cooling but I like the design....I want a lanbox with a handle though, as many LAN parties as my friends and I have...still can't find a dual PCIE vid slot mATX MB though
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So, before i decide to get these things.. i need to hear what everyone else thinks.. MDK put this together so... lol i joke i joke
Case: APEVIA X-Gear
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811144042 (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811144042)
Motherboard: NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131073 (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131073)
Power Supply: OCZ GameXStream 850W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817341003 (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817341003)
Video Card: (2) XFX GeForce 8800 GT
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814150252
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819115017 (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819115017)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822136074 (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822136074)
Op Drive?: ASUS 18X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black PATA Model DRW-1814BL - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827135148 (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827135148)
RAM: (2) CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145590 (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145590)
I'm not going to go with Liquid Cooling, and I think i'm not going to get a sound card.. I probably missed something but oh well.
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HAHHA widow loves my case....
I have the normal black steel armor case (Widow has sat next to it for the last three LANs). No liquid cooling but the thing is FUCKING heavy, yes the aluminum case is so much lighter. It is quite easily one of the easiest cases to work in.
(P.S. The doors squeak it's fucking annoying. Also the tool less design for the pci cards doesn't work too well.)
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So, before i decide to get these things.. i need to hear what everyone else thinks.. MDK put this together so... lol i joke i joke
Case: APEVIA X-Gear
Motherboard: NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI
Power Supply: OCZ GameXStream 850W Power Supply
Video Card: (2) XFX GeForce 8800 GT
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
ASUS 18X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black PATA Model DRW-1814BL - OEM
RAM: (2) CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop
I'm not going to go with Liquid Cooling, and I think i'm not going to get a sound card.. I probably missed something but oh well.
That looks like an MDK build meaning he is the only person I know who uses that X-Gear case, and ASUS burner. It's actually quite a nice build MDK does know what he is doing.
Which motherboard are you getting? That's sort of important. What's your price limit? Did you factor in OS cost? When i get off of work I will just double check the parts but right off the bat you should get a pc power and cooling psu. Yes OZC bought them out but you won;t even need all the power in that gamerstream.
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I added links to my post.. hopefully it will help. lol
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Better to have more power than not enough.
I would stick with the striker extreme. It is a Nvidia 680i chip set. Expensive though.
As far as DVD burners, just get the Lite-ON serial ATA burner. It's 36 bucks and it has light scribe. WTF even if it last a year or so who cares it cost 35 bucks. I have had lite-on drives and have had 0 problems with it.
This is the specs of my new machine. Most bang for the buck IMO
Intel Quad core Q6600 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017)
ASUS Striker Extreme (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131074)
OCZ PC1066 Memory (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227178)
ThermalTake Armor LCS (http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/armor_lcs/ve2000swa.asp)
ThermalTake 1000W PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153053)
2 x EVGA 8800GTS 640MB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130071)
Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatality (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102005)
Hard Drives
OS DRIVE
WD Raptor 150GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136012)
Storage Raid 5 Array
4 x Seagate 320GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140)
2 x Lite-On SATA DVD-RW (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106072)
Logitech G11 Keyboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126009)
2 x Acer 22" WideScreen (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009102)
Widow
BTW that board is the same as the striker extreme without all the bells and whistles .
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Widow you should get the EVGA 680i A1 if you want the best bang for your buck.
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No offense Stayfen, but that case is gay looking and screams I'm a emo-WoW freak.. Go with a cooler master, antec, or chenming..Thermaltake stuff is nice too...
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Here is the case i want to get.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3235568&sku=C283-1170
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Thats a nice one, Cooler Master dont make junk, especially their higher-end stuff. I have had a CM Stacker since they came out, and it has served me well.
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I love the Antec Ninehundred.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&Tpk=nine%2bhundred
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Alright. Right after Chritsmas is when I am going to Build my PC.
I am going to run the Q6600 and try to run dual 8800's in SLI.
I want to know which motherboard you guys think it good for this. Before I was going to get the one snyper posted, but that is no longer available. So what do you guys think? thanks.
~Wonder.
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This is a tip that will save you a ton of cash, do not buy Fatal1ty shit. Get the item that is like it, without his name, and you get basically the same product just not his name, if you want the name on it, do it yourself lol. I've found every fatality item is useless compared to it's non named counterpart. Video cards and Sound cards especially, don't get a physics card, i'd suggest the Killer Network Card, shown here: http://killernic.com/landpage/?gclid=CNDZt6aAvZACFQ2aOAodVgSkXQ (http://killernic.com/landpage/?gclid=CNDZt6aAvZACFQ2aOAodVgSkXQ)
Just whatever you do, save money on the Fatal1ty name, you'll regret not doing so if you ever try something without his name on it and see how similar it is.
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Alright. Right after Chritsmas is when I am going to Build my PC.
I am going to run the Q6600 and try to run dual 8800's in SLI.
I want to know which motherboard you guys think it good for this. Before I was going to get the one snyper posted, but that is no longer available. So what do you guys think? thanks.
~Wonder.
I love my ASUS P5N32-E SLI motherboard. It is the Nvidia 680i chipset and is great for overclocking if you go down that route. It handles the 1333 FSB processors great too. It have 3 x16 slots but you can only do 2 full x16 cards and then the 3rd slot becomes a x8 speed. Will be a great board for doing SLI with. I will be adding a second 8800 Ultra to mine here after the holidays.
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I am pretty sure that board is identical to the striker extreme but without all the bells and whistles. I was going to go with the striker extreme.
Widow
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The new Nvidia 780 boards are out. You can run THREE 8800 cards! Holy shit!!!
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3523225&CatId=3495 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3523225&CatId=3495)
(http://images.tigerdirect.com/itemDetails/E145-2034/E145-2034-out2-hl.jpg)
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Yea, I was looking at those, but I didn't know that they came out yet.
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Can only run 3 8800 GTX's or 8800 Ultra's though. None of the other cards can do Triple SLI. I was thinking of upgrading to the new EVGA board but I do not want to spend money on a 3rd video card.
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I'll bet my lucky knife that a patch will be released that allows the other cards to work. Why wouldnt they? I dont see anything special about the sli properties of an 8800Ultra/GTX that isnt like the lesser cards.
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I'll bet my lucky knife that a patch will be released that allows the other cards to work. Why wouldnt they? I dont see anything special about the sli properties of an 8800Ultra/GTX that isnt like the lesser cards.
The reason the other cards will not work is cause they only have 1 SLI connector on them where as the GTX and the ULTRA have 2 SLI connectors on them. Check out the pictures of the cards at Newegg.
GT
(http://www.mnrottie.org/VC/GT.jpg)
GTS
(http://www.mnrottie.org/VC/GTS.jpg)
GTX
(http://www.mnrottie.org/VC/GTX.jpg)
ULTRA
(http://www.mnrottie.org/VC/Ultra.jpg)
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Well I ordered my 780i and it should be comming today or tomarow. Can't wait!
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are you just upgrading the MB or are you getting new other parts too?
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Im building a whole new rig.
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Alright, well I ordered everything and hopefully it should all be here by sat.
MOBO: Evga 780i
Vid Card: Dual 8800 GTS in SLI
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3514991&sku=E145-8828
Case: Coolermaster Cosmos
CPU: Intel Q6600
Power Supp: Silencer 750 quad
Ram: 4GB of Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800
Hard Drive 1: Western Digital 150GB Raptor
Hard Drive 2: 400GB samsung
Sound Card: Creative Labs Fatality X-Fi Platinum
Headset: Creative Labs Gaming headset
Zalman CPU cooling fan
Mouse: Razer Lachesis gaming mouse
Keyboard: Razer Lycosa keyboard
Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit edition
OP drive: Lite On 20X DvD burner w/ light scribe.
Moniter: 24" Dell 2407
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=320-5647
So thats my rig. Can't wait for it all to come.
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Wonder i could have saved you money on the vid card http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3436163&Sku=E145-8810 only difference is the game.
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wow, sounds and looks like your gonna have a kick ass system
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Hey Wonder, how's that Dell 2407 working out? I've read there are severe ghosting issues with that model, you'll often see dark ghosting trails behind lighter objects. There are some vids on Youtube demonstrating this. There's also a big thread on the Dell forums. Long story short, Dell figured out what was causing it and basically said they're not going to fix it. They were offering refunds for a while late last year.
There's a 2408 model coming out soon from Dell, people are wondering if it still has the ghosting issue. I've been in the market for a 24" wide screen but the better ones don't seem to be budging from that ~$650 price point.
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Well to be honest i haven't used it yet. Im having a desk built so until my new desk comes im notting setting up my moniter. But ill let u know how it is when I hook it up.
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Get a HP 24. They have good response times, have a small footprint and aren't that expensive.
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wow i just built out an sli system witht 2gb ram, dual 2.6 proc, 2x250gb seagate 7200 rpm sata, etc. and am getting 60-80fps playing tf2 with single evga 7600gt ddr3.
cost for whole rig? a whopping $508. i went $8 over budget.
i love these super gaming boxes, though. Just wanted to get it out there that you dont NEED to spend a lot of money. and as far as longevity, as long as needs are static the pc will last for 5 years easy.
there are apple 2's hosting web sites, remember....