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Public Forum => SPAM Central => Topic started by: Cole on November 28, 2005, 08:53:23 AM

Title: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: Cole on November 28, 2005, 08:53:23 AM
Who believes it?  I sure as hell do!  Drugs are good for you provided that they are not abuse.  Recreation is recreation.  However, recreation can become abuse.  But I'm not talking about H and coke here, I'm talking adderall, caffine, tylenol, and lsd.
Title: Re: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: Darkensky on November 28, 2005, 09:04:33 AM
Drugs are good for you provided that they are not abuse.

I believe drugs should be taken when you need them not everytime you think you need them... 

Second, caffine is a nice drug:  But i don't drink Pop. 
All those nights you had to cram for tests... caffine is the way to go!!
Title: Re: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: Cole on November 28, 2005, 09:21:53 AM
no, adderall is the way to go.  I need to get me some of that.

What I'm really talking about is controlling the chemicals and chemical processes of you body with science.  Stimulants, nootropics, etc.  There are realtively safe performance enhancing drugs out there.  The trick is to understand what they do, and know what moderation truly is.  This requires a lot of reading. 
Title: Re: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: Paladin_Godfather on November 28, 2005, 09:27:23 AM
yeah that isnt a great idea.... main reason... your tolerance level... if you wanna mellow out with a little downer here and there... eventually you will become less and less susecptable to its effects.. then what.... you need a bigger dose.... hmmmm, kinda sounds like an addiction there.... not only that, but you cant actually effect your brain and CNS with one dose of drugs such as Ecstasy and LSD and PCP... one hit of LSD and you can have Flashbacks 15-20 years down the road... drugs like Marijuana that release endorphins into your system can actually lead to Testicular cancer and can wear out the organ that releases endorphins (its name escapes me right now)


but nah its cool.... hit your bong druggie  :wink:

lol
Title: Re: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: Cole on November 28, 2005, 09:34:27 AM
See.  Know what you're talking about before you say anything paladin.  Do you even know what causes flashbacks?  Do you even know anything about how the brain works?  I doubt you've ever picked up a neurology or neuropharmocolgy text.  nub.  Keep on spreading your store bought prejudice.

If you want to talk about drugs that can negatively affect teh CNS in one dose you need to talk about Crystal Meth, not mdma.  Besides, the discussion is not about these drugs.  it's about nootropics and stimulants and performance enhancing drugs.  LSD and other psycogenic drugs can enhance empathy and spiritual understanding, but not many people are that open minded so we won't even go there.  That's a different philosophical thread.
Title: Re: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: Paladin_Godfather on November 28, 2005, 09:47:42 AM
i dont have to pick up massive large books to understand basic body functions.... jeuss christ man, just cause people arent super elite neurology majors doesnt mean that they dont understand whats going on...


drugs fuck you up.... you wanna do them, fine....


I cant wait until im DEA....
Title: Re: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: Cole on November 28, 2005, 10:57:38 AM
you truly are an idiot if you do not understand the differences between adderall, piracetam, 5-HTP, DHA, and tylenol, and heroin and meth.
Title: Re: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: Paladin_Godfather on November 28, 2005, 11:07:05 AM
adderall is a muscle relaxer.... tylenol is not... its a mild pain reliver... herion is a alkaloid opioid... its a derivative of morphene... Piracetam is supposed to boost mental ability and slow brain aging... not apporved by FDA but used for personal use in Europe.. it doesnt metabolize... 5-htp is tyrptophan... and who doesnt love turkey every now and then!!!  DHA... skin care product mostly used in suntan lotion.... meth is an amphetamine...



hehehe, i just did a 15 pages research project on drugs and there uses in different socio-economic statuses..
Title: Re: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: Paladin_Godfather on November 28, 2005, 11:12:42 AM
oh, unless by DHA you meant the one found in Fish Oil.... if so... i apologize and will preach your Spamming theory to all
Title: Re: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: vergas on November 28, 2005, 11:16:20 AM
paladin are u tryin to spam..
Title: Re: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: Paladin_Godfather on November 28, 2005, 11:16:53 AM
 :oops: :-(


yes sir....
Title: Re: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: vergas on November 28, 2005, 11:17:23 AM
haha ok ill spam with u
Title: Re: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: Cole on November 28, 2005, 02:40:27 PM
Please no one read the follow to be as true:  It is all shit.  Paladin, my god.  If you got anything above a C on your paper, it must be because you're a criminology major or something.  lol.  OK.  quiz:  how good is your level of serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine.  How would you know?  How can you influence it through food, supplements, and finally pharmecueticals. 


adderall is a muscle relaxer.... tylenol is not... its a mild pain reliver... herion is a alkaloid opioid... its a derivative of morphene... Piracetam is supposed to boost mental ability and slow brain aging... not apporved by FDA but used for personal use in Europe.. it doesnt metabolize... 5-htp is tyrptophan... and who doesnt love turkey every now and then!!! DHA... skin care product mostly used in suntan lotion.... meth is an amphetamine...



hehehe, i just did a 15 pages research project on drugs and there uses in different socio-economic statuses..

Finally, there is a huge difference in using drugs to escape reality and using drugs to enhance life.
Title: Re: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: Darkensky on November 28, 2005, 03:15:45 PM
"Finally, there is a huge difference in using drugs to escape reality and using drugs to enhance life."

So we are going back to your main question?!  Do we use the drugs to enhance living through chemistry...
Me personaly, I would say yes.  Drugs to increase memory,endurance, fight infections, fight canncer ect..  We as humans havn't even begin to scratch the surface of what we could do to through chemistry.  What two - three years ago we finished the mapping of human DNA.  Thats just mapping where the gene is found.  Now to understand that one chromosome in that giant map, just so we can enhance life with chemistry will take decades of work. 

Sorry cole your question is pretty dumb!!  Who would say no?!!
Title: Re: Better living through chemistry...
Post by: Mathius007 on November 29, 2005, 07:43:46 PM
Certain drugs only though, of course.
For example I used to take adderall as I am diagnosed with ADD. It did indeed help to boost my concentration levels. However, I find myself better off without it, and able to control myself and willingly concentrate.