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Public Forum => Pc Help/Tweak Page => Topic started by: Holy Shit on April 09, 2009, 09:26:50 AM

Title: Torrents
Post by: Holy Shit on April 09, 2009, 09:26:50 AM
Hey i was just wondering what kind of encryptin program everyone uses when they are downloading torrents... How would i get my hands on some of the software and is it easy to set up...lol... I have been downloading a few things without one of these programs and was wondering if it is completly necessary to have so lawsuits arent opend against me... or am i ok? lol... Im a very cautious person and was looking for some help/advise here.

Thanks
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: crazydog on April 09, 2009, 12:50:06 PM
1) Always use private trackers. They aren't watched as much by anti-piracy agencies as The Pirate Bay, Mininova, etc are(ISPs will 'contact' you more if you download torrents from public trackers. :P).

2) If you use uTorrent (http://www.utorrent.com/), go to Options->BitTorrent, and under Protocol Encryption, Force outgoing encryption, and uncheck the "allow incoming legacy conenctions"

3) Use PeerGuardian  (http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/)to block giant lists of known 'bad' IPs from seeing your computer.

4) If you REALLY want to be safe, you can use a VPN service such as Torrent Freedom. (http://torrentfreedom.com/). They mask your IP address and encrypt transfers between you and the VPN, so it's virtually impossible to be caught. It costs as low as $11.58/month though.
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: StangGT on April 09, 2009, 02:09:44 PM
<3 torrents .. greatest thing ever created next to IRC
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: Holy Shit on April 09, 2009, 02:59:11 PM
so crazy what do you use when downloading?
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: crazydog on April 09, 2009, 03:32:30 PM
I use all I mentioned above, except the VPN.
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: Giant Flying Head on April 09, 2009, 03:45:43 PM
I use Utorrent.
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: Holy Shit on April 09, 2009, 04:16:51 PM
ok... i have utorrent and i did what you said in number 2 and downloaded 3 and have that all set up... How long have you been downloading? lol

Do you leave peer guardian running all the time, or do you just use it before you go to download a torrent?

Thanks for the help :)
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: crazydog on April 10, 2009, 12:36:57 AM
I've been downloading torrents for about..umm...since around September 27th 2006. I've only been 'caught' twice. The first time was soon before Sep 27th '06, cause I was getting a game that came out around then, and again this December because I got something from The Pirate Bay (stupid).

I turn on PeerGuardian right before I tell Firefox to open a torrent with uTorrent.
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: StangGT on April 10, 2009, 12:56:28 AM
I've been downloading torrents for about..umm...since around September 27th 2006. I've only been 'caught' twice. The first time was soon before Sep 27th '06, cause I was getting a game that came out around then, and again this December because I got something from The Pirate Bay (stupid).

I turn on PeerGuardian right before I tell Firefox to open a torrent with uTorrent.
were u using pg when u got caught?
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: crazydog on April 10, 2009, 02:50:06 AM
First time, no, second time, yes.

PG isn't perfect, but it's much more than just a placebo.
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: StangGT on April 10, 2009, 07:55:25 AM
First time, yes, second time, no.

PG isn't perfect, but it's much more than just a placebo.
I'm aware, I was just curious about whether or not you had it running at the time.
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: crazydog on April 10, 2009, 09:29:06 AM
Whoops. I screwed up my post. It should have read first time NO, second time YES. :P (editing it now)
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: Elite_Prophet on April 10, 2009, 10:30:17 AM
1. I can't get peer guardian to work on 64 bit vista...even with those steps they told me to do....
2. What exactly is a private tracker/how does one find this mythical beasts
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: crazydog on April 10, 2009, 12:28:37 PM
1) I'll find the guide I used for you Elite, and anyone else with 64-bit vista
2) A Private Tracker is just a tracker you need registration for. One you can easily get to is demonoid.

This is what worked for me:
http://forums.phoenixlabs.org/showthread.php?t=17892

Ask if you have an questions.
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: Holy Shit on April 10, 2009, 01:01:40 PM
What happened when you got caught? lol
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: crazydog on April 10, 2009, 03:16:59 PM
Well, the first time was at home. They shut off our internet until I called them and confirmed I deleted the files (only have to remove the torrent from uTorrent), and said that they had a 3 strikes rule, where on the 3rd they will terminate our service permanently, and that was the first.

Second time was at school. They shut off the internet to my account, and I had to call them and be read information about the DMCA.

Your ISP reserves the right to forward your information to whoever found your IP address. Probably on the 3rd strike with my home ISP I'd get a lawsuit, but none yet! :P
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: Rally Pig on April 11, 2009, 08:51:25 AM
not been caught but i dont download them as much i use bit torrent to download and i down load the torrents from all over and delete the "tasks" after each download
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: crazydog on April 11, 2009, 05:10:42 PM
Since I'm with private trackers, I hang onto them until I get a 1.100 ratio. Then I remove them from uTorrent.
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: Holy Shit on April 12, 2009, 09:28:00 AM
ooh i see... I hope none of us get a lawsuit, that would be bad lol
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: MDK22 on April 12, 2009, 10:20:53 AM
Ok for the last and final time crazydog use PeerGuardian you can download it here: http://filehippo.com/download_peerguardian/ (http://filehippo.com/download_peerguardian/).

PeerGuardian is an open source IP filter that is designed to block the IP addresses of certain organizations and corporations that may wish to harm a users privacy while using the Internet and peer-to-peer networks.

PeerGuardian 2 requires no driver installation, yet blocks IP addresses at a far higher speed than was previously available - never above 1% CPU on most test systems. On Windows 2000 and greater PeerGuardian 2 blocks at a kernel level, acting against every protocol used within the windows system. On Windows 98 or Me it blocks TCP only (due to technical reasons, kernel blocking in 98/ME is not feasible) with the same high performance of the Windows 2000 version.

PeerGuardian blocks IP addresses based upon a list of IP addresses collected by many methods. By default, PeerGuardian 2 collects IP addresses from the Blocklist.org website. Blocklist.org is a website designed to allow users to interactively manage and block the IP addresses of certain organisations and companies. Founded in early 2005 by phoenixlabs.org, it is intended to be a platform agnostic database that utilises published open formats. Blocklist.org is still under construction, and more detail about how to use the database to submit new ranges, and report bad ranges will be added to a later version of this manual.

If you have Vista aka problems installing it due to driver licensing the information can be found here: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/1429/vista_disable_digital_driver_signing_enforcement/ (http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/1429/vista_disable_digital_driver_signing_enforcement/) Note: This is due to the fact that Windows for Vista and 7 has made all companies designing drivers have to get them certified. Laymans terms this means microsoft gets 500 dollars for each driver made for that OS. Since peerguardian is open source it doesnt have the money currently to pay this.

Now with that installed you will need the files attached to make sure you can still play steam xfire and diabloII while playing. You could also just shut it off while you are gaming since it should only be active while you are torrenting and its a bitch to torrent while you play.

How to use the exception lists. When installing make sure to do import lists. I suggest you save the lists in my documents as they are small easy to use and you will always back them up when you back up your my documents. What you then have to do is put in the description per type and make sure to set it to allow. Then click add browse find it allow and describe each one and repeat. It is not hard and will provide you with a very nice setup and it will block ****MOST**** of the bs and anti p2p and all the shit that normally gets you in trouble.
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: crazydog on April 12, 2009, 03:49:36 PM
And also, if the Vista x64 link MDK gave doesn't work for you (like it didn't for me), try this one, which DID work for me:
http://forums.phoenixlabs.org/showthread.php?t=17892
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: Elite_Prophet on April 13, 2009, 05:56:40 PM
I just connect to my neighbors internet while I download them haha  :headbang1:
Title: Re: Torrents
Post by: crazydog on April 14, 2009, 12:30:30 AM
We aren't all as lucky to have that convenience.

Sadly, people have learned that you should protect your network, although it's still pretty easy to crack WEP keys that many people have.